Submitted by mzzy_ozborne t3_z89f4c in boston
The_Darkprofit t1_iyakula wrote
I love that. Promote the hell out of the T and then fund it like all that press is deserved. Finish off the south coast spoke, reunite MA!
Hribunos t1_iyaly21 wrote
The south coast fail is a boondoggle that will reduce service to the more important inner parts of the line. Of all the current expansion plans (north south rail link, blue to Lynn, blue/red connector, etc etc) it's the worst.
The_Darkprofit t1_iyanee0 wrote
It was promised in the early 90s then derailed by racism towards the larger black populations in New Bedford and Fall River at the time. It’s due.
squarerootofapplepie t1_iyatikn wrote
Fall River is actually pretty white. Not saying this is your assumption, but it’s funny to me how people claim racism is why Fall River is hated, assuming that more diversity= high crime, without realizing how white it is.
tacknosaddle t1_iyavy9w wrote
>people claim racism is why Fall River is hated
It's an easy mistake though. When people say that they're afraid the rail link will "bring crime" from Fall River to Boston it's assumed to be coded racist language against ethnic minorities. We're really just terrified of matricidal and patricidal white axe-murderesses.
joshhw t1_iyb0hzm wrote
It’s very white but they are still hella racist there. I state that as someone born and raised there.
squarerootofapplepie t1_iyb13de wrote
That’s not what I’m saying, the claim isn’t that Fall River is racist but that people who don’t like Fall River are racist.
Also you hate to see someone born and raised in MA using hella instead of wicked.
TheGreenJedi t1_iyb2co0 wrote
Really? Interesting didn't know it was possible to escape that area if you were born there (UMD grad)
joshhw t1_iyb36aa wrote
I’m only one of two friends that did.
TheGreenJedi t1_iyb3f7y wrote
Lol one of my buds escaped, landed on Worcester, things were going good.
Then he fucked up his marriage flirting with teenagers
Boom, now about to take over the mortgage for the house he grew up in, and live with his sister
LyradROB7 t1_iyb64os wrote
Ahh shit here we go again
The_Darkprofit t1_iyavcl9 wrote
There are more Asians and Middle Eastern populations and almost the same percentage Black 6.5 (fr)vs 6.7(nb). Twice the percent~20%(nb) vs ~10% (fr) for Hispanic population. Fall River also exceeds NB with Portuguese residents who if you look back are often the brunt of discrimination though not to compare their treatment to non European Hispanics. If you look at major suburban numbers like Dartmouth or Fairhaven they are actually pretty disturbing.
man2010 t1_iyanvc7 wrote
Hey now, it's not as bad as east-west rail with it's projected 1.5-2 hour travel times from Springfield and 1,500 daily riders based on pre-pandemic numbers. But hey, I'm sure the $2.5-4 billion it will cost couldn't be spent on projects that people will actually use.
OutsiderAvatar t1_iydxr0y wrote
Who are you to say what's more important? Pretty elitist. Also, none of what you listed are expansions to places without rail options.
Hribunos t1_iydylel wrote
More riders = more important. Where riders is roughly population modulo wealth (poor people need transit more than rich people). Call that elitist if you wish, I believe it to be the most equitable distribution of resources.
dosmoney t1_iyaoi80 wrote
As someone who lives in New Bedford, with rent rates climbing to ridiculous rates already (we’re paying $2k for a 2 bedroom pet friendly apartment that isn’t even very nice), I’m not a fan of the line. I don’t hate the idea but I hate what it’s doing and will do for rents. We’re paying almost double what we were 4 years ago.
The_Darkprofit t1_iyap5d9 wrote
Yeah it makes it a better place to live and unlike the suburban towns New Bedford has the right zoning to actually get more investment in affordable housing, which could help out everyone in the area. Either way I don’t think you are going to avoid rising rents by wishing away housing demand. I hope you get into a better housing situation if yours is an issue right now.
dosmoney t1_iyaqn44 wrote
Not going to avoid rising rents no, I agree there. But, having looked for apartments a few of times over the last few years in New Bedford and surrounding areas, the rise in price in New Bedford has not been in line with surrounding areas. (Obviously this is anecdotal and pertaining to my situation, needing something pet friendly, and 2 bedroom), but many I know echo the same thing. New Bedford is also falling victim to many multi families being sold to property management companies, who are pricing out long time renters(I know this in particular isn’t a New Bedford specific problem ofc)
Also on topic, I LOVE this jersey design.
The_Darkprofit t1_iyarlxl wrote
Yeah I mean what will stabilize affordable rents? It’s not going to be less housing or jobs, and if one of the solutions is more housing the minor cities like New Bedford, Fall River, Brockton, Taunton etc. are the fastest route to more housing. It would take years in court to try and force the wealthy suburbs to get rid of their NIMBY policies.
dosmoney t1_iyazr6d wrote
Oh I assure you NIMBYisn isn’t exclusive to the suburbs. Plenty of people against affordable housing in New Bedford. It’s stopped some projects from happening even in the last few years.
My biggest concern is where do the current residents go when they can’t afford the rents of property managers who are catering to new commuters? I mean I guess like the shitty 3 families owned by slumlords will still possibly be an option but man it’s fucked out here.
The_Darkprofit t1_iyb1gqd wrote
I don’t know the situation. I do know that if you are getting priced out in NB there isn’t much within an hour that’s cheaper without paying/earning compromises. I hope things work out for you.
dosmoney t1_iyb2dou wrote
Yeah I hope so too and everyone else in the city. The only places that we could find that were cheaper were heading pretty far west, or parts of RI or CT.
Something has to happen for housing, and not just here.
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