Submitted by FuriousAlbino t3_z51jiy in boston
Buffyoh t1_ixuk8ug wrote
Why in hell are they getting bail at all? If they possess one hundred pounds of Fentanyl, one hundred thousand dollars is nothing to them.
sckuzzle t1_ixuqyn9 wrote
It's because they don't actually have 100 lbs of fentanyl. The police like to inflate the numbers so that they seem more impressive. They actually have 100 lbs of powder that has trace amounts of fentanyl in it, but it's common practice to just label the entire thing as the drug, ignoring purity.
LinguiniAficionado t1_ixuw1zg wrote
According to mass state law, the entirety of any mixture containing a drug is counted as that drug, because they intend to sell the mixture. So yeah, you’re totally right to point out that it’s misleading, but it’s not the police trying to “sound impressive”, it’s just the legal definition of what the suspects were in possession of.
And really, less pure = more profit, because they have 100 lbs of something to sell regardless of what it contains, and a higher proportion of that being a cutting agent rather than pure fentanyl means they have higher profit margins, so it makes the $100k even less significant to them.
sckuzzle t1_ixuxt36 wrote
> the entirety of any mixture containing a drug is counted as that drug
for sentencing purposes. Laws can't change the physical reality of the world. And the physical reality is that there weren't 100 lbs of fentanyl there, no matter what some law says about how long someone should be thrown in jail for. And the police are absolutely still lying (not misleading) about how much fent there is. It's both not the "legal definition" and not the truth.
>And really, less pure = more profit
lol.
Explorer_of_Dreams t1_ixwmpgr wrote
Fuck off trying to defend drug dealers. They're willingly selling 100 lbs of product they know will possibly kill their buyers and they don't care
sckuzzle t1_ixwz111 wrote
Nowhere did I defend drug dealers.
Explorer_of_Dreams t1_ixwzvz5 wrote
The police gave an estimation of the value the drug dealers had - one pretty lower that the full weight given. Just because you can't do basic math doesn't mean you have to call the people trying to take these murderers off our streets liars
sckuzzle t1_ixx278y wrote
Ahh. So you're just mad I'm criticizing the police. Got it.
Explorer_of_Dreams t1_ixx2mr2 wrote
Nah mate. You just spreading misinformation hurts everyone
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Aromatic_Oven_3971 t1_ixuws75 wrote
They also had a pill press. So very possible they had pure fentanyl and cutting agents prepped and ready to press into pills
sckuzzle t1_ixuyv5q wrote
If they had 100 lbs of pure fentanyl, the police would have reported that they seized drugs with a $1.3b street value. Yes, that's b, as in billion, as in $1,300,000,000.
They didn't seize 100 lbs of pure fentanyl.
Intrepid-Hunter-5813 t1_ixv3sif wrote
I don’t know how many times I’ve had to explain this to people… glad somebody gets it.
Maddcapp t1_ixuw0j2 wrote
Yup and the street value shit is a joke. Maybe if you broke up the amount into $5 bags and sold 200,000 of them. Which wouldn’t happen.
ShoreNorth9 t1_ixv5l3z wrote
Take a snort and tell me the purity then.
Aromatic_Oven_3971 t1_ixuwnc6 wrote
How do you know? You can literally buy pure (relatively…95%+) fentanyl from the dark web
jojenns t1_ixvd4l7 wrote
Can you provide the lab results or actual weight then please?
Effective_Golf_3311 t1_ixuwe5x wrote
Are you suggesting they track down each granule?
Or is it safe to say that the weight given by police speaks better to the idea that they were trafficking rather than possessing, since the dealers will divide it up later as necessary to wholesale?
Nobody does pure fentanyl. It’s all cut. So it’s one thing to try to push a simple possession charge but when we’re talking this size the whole number tells the whole story.
These guys were gonna make a fuck load of money off of the death and misery off of people and the fact that you’re trying to minimize it is pretty disgusting.
sckuzzle t1_ixuyc32 wrote
> Are you suggesting they track down each granule? Nobody does pure fentanyl. It’s all cut.
Of course they shouldn't track down the grains. I'm saying that at minimum they should have said that they found 100 lbs of powder that contained fentanyl. Saying it's 100 lbs of fentanyl simply is not factually accurate and also intentionally misrepresenting what was seized.
>and the fact that you’re trying to minimize it is pretty disgusting.
Mmmm, yes, that's what I'm doing. Calling out lies means that I must be pro-murder, right? Cool. Got it.
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