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[deleted] t1_iu4im9z wrote

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psharpep t1_iu4jsna wrote

> It is absolutely possible that the parents took reasonable steps to safeguard their gun from their kid and that the kid defeated all of those efforts to gain access secretly anyway.

Disagree. The fact that a 7 year old was able to break in is an existence proof that whatever gun safe they had was criminally indadequate. A 7 year old isn't using an angle grinder or thermite - this is basic, basic safety.

If the parents want to own a gun, fine - but when they chose to do so, they implicitly accepted criminal responsibility for securing that gun and any consequences for failing to do so. If they don't want that liability, or they're unable to manage that liability (as is clearly the case), they shouldn't own a gun - period.

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[deleted] t1_iu4l9f9 wrote

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devAcc123 t1_iu4n4iq wrote

Lmao it’s a 7 year old child

If you can’t figure out how to prevent a literal 7 year old from accessing a gun you are in no way shape or form responsible enough to own a firearm with a child in the house

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psharpep t1_iu4nbd5 wrote

That's exactly my point. Most gun locks by themselves are woefully unsafe and inadequate, and, if you're a gun owner, the buck stops with you to keep it safe.

I grew up around guns, with my family owning over a dozen. Not once was a loaded gun ever kept in the house. Not once was ammunition stored together with the gun. Both were kept in steel safes with both a pick-resistant key AND a six-digit combo when at home, and often they were kept offsite (i.e., away from kids - me) in a small 24/7 storage locker.

It's really not that hard or expensive to do gun ownership right - these parents have no excuse.

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walthamresident927 t1_iu4n6q0 wrote

You realize how stupid saying “maybe the child broke into the thing made by adults to keep other adults out” is, right? He didn’t break into a gun safe. He picked up a gun lying around

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jojenns t1_iu4l3fo wrote

The kid is 7. If you cant outsmart your 7 year old to keep a gun secure then you just shouldn’t have a gun.

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CommodoreQuinli t1_iu53xuq wrote

I can’t outsmart the squirrels trying to get to the bird feeder but they probaly conjure up ways to get in 24/7 while I only try to stop them once I’m a blue moon.

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