[i]Spoiler Warning Discussion several ongoing book series [/i]
Any reason is a good reason to talk about art. Following a bought of COVID 19 two years ago I quickly became a voracious reader again. I believe the need to exist in the mind in order to read comprehensively has given me the peaceful quiet I need from modern media and social networks. That said I quickly found myself reading Japanese lite novels and there Western equivalent of litrpg. The main difference I have noticed after reading roughly 500 books after three years is that the protagonist in Western world skew older, are more sexually proactive and both are pro might makes right but Western works tend to have a more Murder Hobo vibe.
Case number 1 we have Mushoku Tensei with an MC who decided to not go to his parents funeral but instead stay at home and watch and I quote "loliporn". After many ups and downs are MC reincarnation Rude us Greyrat has sex for the first time with a 17 girl but because he's in a 15 year olds body we can ignore the fact he has the accumulated life experience of 49 years. Some years and many trials later he married multiple women whose most defining characteristic is that they are either physically very young or even appear almost child like to human eyes.
For other lite novels a clear trope of older men in the bodies of teenagers engaging romantically with girls young enough to be their daughters often appears.
Besides the uncomfortable allusions to pedophilia you get a lot of champion of colonialism especially in Western portal books. To explain a portal book is one where someone gets access to another world but can get back to Earth.
For examples of the portal series I bring up two. Backyard Dungeon and Looting the 13th Floor. Both series involved working poor white American man gaining access to another world then almost immediately meet and usually rescue a beautiful and exotic non human woman who is oddly amorous and sexually pliant. They rarely have any real agency and of course Any reason is a good reason to talk about art. their white American man to be their King/Boss and persue sexual relationships with multiple women. All this whole using modern firearms against pre industrial people. Even the most amateurish historians can clearly see echoes of American Manifest Destiny and Japan's war against China during WW2.
The author's of these series have every right to write the story they want but I simply wish to begin a discussion and thoughts I have. Please note I won't stop reading these books but would enjoy any suggestions for series that don't fall into the trope mentioned here
Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 t1_j6i354g wrote
I wouldn't defend most isekai (and I actively avoid most of them, other than villainess isekai), but I find them interesting as a phenomenon. One cultural aspect that I think is interesting is that Western readers spend a lot of time trying to decode the secret meaning of the stuff they read, while in East Asia they mostly don't really give a shit. If dudes want to read 30 identical light novels about a dude who is immediately overpowered and has four waifus, they will produce 30 of these novels and then give them 30 anime adaptations until the money runs out. Chinese fantasy novels sound the most extreme -- you'll see plots where a dude kills literally millions while having a harem of twenty. (Killing every member of a clan because one of them wronged them is a common reason for mass murder.) Thinking that your leisure consumption needs to be virtuous seems like a Western virtue.
FWIW, the female-led isekai have the same age gap dynamic with the genders reversed. You don't usually get actual harems (because that would be slutty, I guess) but you do get five guys who pine after the female lead because she's just so wonderful. This the level of self-indulgence that gets Western audiences to complain "she's a Mary Sue". But the core audience doesn't give a shit. Of course she's a Mary Sue -- that's what they're paying for.
This leads to a lot of garbage (most isekai, for example), but it leads to a big pulp fiction market that doesn't really exist in the West anymore. The closest is YA, but even the discussion around YA has a lot of anxiety about whether it's virtuous. You also have many other fringe genres like Western litrpg, but that is a pretty small publishing market. Re:Zero or Reincarnated as a Slime are closer to Harry Potter in their cultural prominence in Japan than they are to Western litrpg.
Mushoku Tensei has a weird vibe around it that makes it seem extra-sleazy (the author feels like he's indulging in something), but in a way if you are going to tell a reincarnation story you're stuck with it. What's the alternative? The lead who is in a 17-year-old body dates a 40-year-old? That usually ends up worse -- that's you end up with the "it's okay that she looks 12 because she's a 1000 year old demon" characters.
The only light novel I've read directly is Tearmoon Empire, which is basically "the French Revolution, but a comedy". The main character is basically Marie Antoinette, and after getting beheaded she gets a chance to go back and redo it to avert her fate. It avoid all of the tropes. Otherwise I only know them from their anime adaptations. The Executioner and Her Way of Life is about someone who's job it is to murder isekai protagonists, so it's less trope-y. The light novel for Oregairu, which isn't a fantasy at all but instead about high school, is supposed to be very good.