selectiveyellow t1_j2aleh0 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 9:07 PM

Reply to comment by shebeogden in Does Don Winslow introduce endless female characters just to write explicitly about their bodies and sex lives? by hammnbubbly

Butcher is kind of shooting himself in the foot here, where the genre he's bouncing off of is largely sexist and he's playing into it. So yeah, it's a bit, but it's also a bit much.

platoprime t1_j2ampsd wrote on December 30, 2022 at 9:16 PM

Sure but there's a difference between not liking it and judging it.

selectiveyellow t1_j2avvvj wrote on December 30, 2022 at 10:16 PM

Is there?

platoprime t1_j2axkdo wrote on December 30, 2022 at 10:28 PM

Yes.

selectiveyellow t1_j2axovj wrote on December 30, 2022 at 10:29 PM

Is there tho?

platoprime t1_j2b34k2 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 11:06 PM

I guess there isn't if you can't read so as far as you're concerned no.

selectiveyellow t1_j2b556q wrote on December 30, 2022 at 11:20 PM

I don't think there is, I think the difference is diplomacy and semantics. People who dislike it dislike it because they are judging it through that lens. So the difference between dislike and judgement is how you perceive the person complaining about it views the readers who enjoy the series. So it's not dislike of the work vs. judging the author, it is probably more so dislike of the work vs. you feeling judged.

Same thing happened with the Orson Scott Card controversy, lots of emotional meltdowns to be seen of people defending their enjoyment of his works. Not that this is all that similar, I do believe that Jim Butcher makes Dresden an ass on purpose and is not himself a hardboiled misogynist.