Submitted by GraniteGeekNH t3_126xrs3 in books

I commented in another post that it's perfectly fine to skim over, or even skip, scenes or pages - heck, entire chapters - while reading, whether non-fiction or fiction. Particularly if you're reading for pleasure, do what pleases you! If you get confused you can always go back.

Some disagreed, at least as far as fiction was concerned. "You're delusional" was one comment.

So what do you think? If you're reading a novel, do you skim or skip over bits of it as the mood strikes you? Or do you stick with every sentence, figuring that the author put it there for a reason and the only way to find that reason is to keep at it?

UPDATE: Responses are split fairly evenly among "Yes, mostly on specific things like sex scenes or long descriptions of scenery" - "No but I understand if you do, it's all good" and - "If you do that you're not actually reading the book"

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breadguy69325 t1_jebha6q wrote

if a book is bad enough that you don't even want to read it then just read something else. I can only imagine skipping or skimming in books I've already read

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chaseinger t1_jebjh6k wrote

if it's a book i otherwise enjoy, i'm invested in characters and story arch but i can't be arsed to read the third page-and-a-half landscape description i'll absolutely skip that.

it's not a hard either-or for me.

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0YaKnow t1_jebkvdw wrote

Appropriate skimming makes reading more enjoyable. I’m reading for fun, not because I’m going to be tested in some random detail later. Stephan King taught me to be a good skimmer. I love his stories, but I do not care about a tree he’s going to describe for 10 mins. If I feel like I missed something I can go back and reread.

I’m not going to judge anyone for actively reading fiction and you would read a textbook, but for me that level of work takes reading from enjoyable to work. I also do a lot of technical and academic reading for work so I wonder if that may be a key difference between skimmers and non skimmers

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Sumtimesagr8notion t1_jec6s5a wrote

I don't care what other people do, but I would never skim. I mostly read to enjoy good prose and cool ideas, so just getting the gist of the plot isn't really beneficial

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0YaKnow t1_jec7lbw wrote

I get that. I would never skip in a fiction book I don’t think.

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Alizorae t1_jedxm2a wrote

You just gave the example of Stephen King?

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0YaKnow t1_jeeh5y4 wrote

Of skipping? I skim Stephan King but it’s don’t straight up skip

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k_albasi t1_jeboze8 wrote

I have the opposite take. I'd skim a textbook because I only need the most relevant information but wouldn't skim fiction because it's enjoyable and I want the full experience. If an author describes a tree for several pages I'd just stop reading it entirely.

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0YaKnow t1_jebs075 wrote

In high school and undergrad I’d read the whole text book. Grad school killed that quick. 500 pages per class multiple nights a week plus journal articles for independent research. If you’re reading every word in grad school you’ll never survive.

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Penguinwolf4 t1_jee77a5 wrote

Books are not just written for some plot that you may 'miss things' on. The writing of a tree is apart of the book and the prose, which is the book. More than just a plot, otherwise you would read a wiki synopsis

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0YaKnow t1_jeehkrm wrote

If I’m reading for enjoyment I’m going to read in a way that’s enjoyable to me. I guess the reading police might arrest me but that’s a risk I’ll take

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lucia-pacciola t1_jeerwnm wrote

Haha no.

I'm reading a very enjoyable series right now. Each book is great, except for the industry-mandated sex scenes. So I skim those bits.

You should consider more than the all or nothing use case.

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breadguy69325 t1_jeeuust wrote

first part of my reply was in response to the first bit of the post (talking about skipping whole chapters). the second bit was giving my personal tendencies of skipping. I am a rampant DNFer (I have a huge tbr and not enough time to read everything) so I find myself only fully reading books where I trust the author to make any scene worth it even if they prove me wrong. I have considered many things, but I only find myself skipping or skimming when I already know I won't miss anything

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okulle t1_jebhttq wrote

> I commented in another post that it's perfectly fine to skim over, or even skip, scenes or pages - heck, entire chapters - while reading

Just skip the whole book.

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TunaLaguna t1_jebo2wq wrote

Why would you even read at all?

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Edit: Should clarify that I don't mean this as "why would anyone even READ lmao." I mean it as "why would would you (OP) read a book that is intended to be consumed as a whole, if you omit large parts of the story completely? What is the point in it?"

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jebw1ax wrote

This is absurd.

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TunaLaguna t1_jebwtlh wrote

what?

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jebysra wrote

The question. They read it because they enjoy it. How they choose to enjoy it is irrelevant. Let me give you a comparison. I draw. When I'm drawing a character, I'll start with JUST the human form in whatever position I'm drawing it in. Then, layer by layer, I add everything else. But if someone skipped drawing the form first, I wouldn't say, "Why even draw at all, then?" Just because someone is doing something differently than you doesn't make it a waste of time. Or, if somebody gets up in the middle of a movie to use the restroom or grab a snack, is there no point in finishing the movie? "Why even watch the movie, then?"

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TunaLaguna t1_jec023i wrote

omg what a ridiculous false equivalency lmao

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jec0b9y wrote

No, it's not. People are allowed to enjoy things in a way that you don't enjoy them. That's my point. Are you competing in some kind of "out pretentious the other guy" contest?

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TunaLaguna t1_jec0t9t wrote

I most certainly am not haha

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jec1i7m wrote

That's too bad. You'd clean up. There are more ways than one to enjoy absolutely everything. There is more than one way to draw a picture. There is more than one way to enjoy a movie. There is more than one way to enjoy a book. It's not a waste of time to do something that they enjoy just because you wouldn't enjoy it that way. To ask, "Why even read?" Is pretentious and absurd.

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Lord_Skellig t1_jecad66 wrote

Well you're allowed to, sure, but it seems weird.

In the same way that if someone was watching a film for the first time and decided to fast-forward through a dialogue-heavy scene because they don't like slow scenes it would be considered very strange.

Sure you can do that. But you're definitely getting an incomplete, and most would say lesser, version of the film. Each scene has been put there for a reason, and that reason might not become clear until later on.

I don't think it is good thing to only value the "best" bits of any piece of media, since that misses out on a huge amount of context that would enrich the experience as a whole.

But as I say, it's your life, do as you wish.

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alolanalice10 t1_jegx0ug wrote

I actually do have a friend who fast-forwards through scenes lmao. I don’t like to watch anything new with her because it’s incomprehensible to me

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jee6j6i wrote

It can't be a "lesser" version when the comment was "Why read at all?" They're definitely getting more than the nothing that was suggested. And it's not good or bad to value any part of these made-up, nonexistent stories and fake people. You could never pick up any piece of fiction, and it wouldn't matter. Beyond the enjoyment that you get out of them, they are utterly worthless. So let people do what they want. This thread is gatekeeping bullshit, and this sub is pretentious as fuck.

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TunaLaguna t1_jeerwnb wrote

Dude give it up. It's over.

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jees887 wrote

I could say the same to you. Why do you people keep responding while acting like anyone doing the same has some kind of problem? Are you just obsessed with getting the last word? At least I'm actually making a point. You can't even manage legitimate conversation or discourse. So go if you want to go. I'm perfectly content doing as I am to irritate you.

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TunaLaguna t1_jeeym51 wrote

You're not irritating me half as much as you're just embarrassing yourself lmao

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jeezv0m wrote

Embarrassing? I'm not embarrassed by anonymous conversations on the internet. This has no impact on my actual life. It's just a time killer between tasks, responsibilities, and activities. As I told somebody else in this thread, made-up internet points mean absolutely nothing to me. I already left this sub, so a ban wouldn't impact me at all, and even if I hadn't, it's one sub out of countless subs that I can join. Shit, I could be banned from all of reddit, and I would just find a different way to kill some time. This is just a good time, lmao. I'm having fun. That's why most of us engage in leisure activities.

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TunaLaguna t1_jef0inm wrote

You're working pretty hard to make sure everyone knows that this means nothing to you, and you're not bothered, yet you've been at it for 17 hours now. I am done with this conversation. If you can't tell by the downvotes, it would seem you're wasting your time. Buh-bye!

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jef1l0d wrote

Whatever you say, buddy. I like to debate. It's fun. That doesn't mean that it has a heavy impact on me, lmao. But the fun thing about you being a stranger on the internet is that you can think whatever you want about me and it doesn't have any potential to change anything in my life. But sure. Keep talking about the made-up internet points in your pretentious echo chamber.

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TunaLaguna t1_jef3by8 wrote

Yes I am definitely the pretentious one here lol

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Ok-Enthusiasm-8052 t1_jeg42t6 wrote

This is seriously the most bizarre thread. I've never seen people so furious about something that affects literally no one.

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Lord_Skellig t1_jegojnc wrote

There is value in things beyond surface level enjoyment. Many experiences, even apparently boring, uncomfortable, and even painful ones can bring important lessons. I don't think it is a healthy approach for a person to try to strip all but the most "enjoyable" or comfortable elements out of their life, and this applies also to reading books.

It's not going to kill you to spend an extra couple of days reading the slow bits. But it might bring a lot of value.

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GrudaAplam t1_jebooqg wrote

No, I read every word. If I accidentally miss a sentence, or a paragraph, or a page, I go back and read it.

I even read the sections in languages I don't understand.

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Quirky_Nobody t1_jece59t wrote

I think you would have gotten a different response if you had said that skimming is an option that you enjoy, instead of outright stating that skipping and skimming is one of the most important skills you need to be a reader. I don't care if you skim stuff, but I don't unless it's a reread and I don't remotely agree that everyone needs to learn to skip over parts of books. I don't think most readers are skipping sections of books. Everyone can read in their own way so there's nothing wrong with skimming - but there's nothing wrong with not skipping anything either.

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GraniteGeekNH OP t1_jeee5yq wrote

Yes, you may be right about the wording. I was trying to convey my belief, built up over decades of reading and talking to other people, that folks who think it's "wrong" in some sense to ever skim or skip, and thus who haven't built up any experience at judging when and how to do it, enjoy reading a lot less and do less of it.

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Olorin_Ever-Young t1_jee5axq wrote

LMAO, are you deliberately farming downvotes or something?

If you don't like a book, why read it for pleasure?

But moreover, why do you care so much what others think? If you enjoy reading novels by skipping every other page.... Why should anyone else care?

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APwilliams88 t1_jeca3m6 wrote

God no. More power to you if you do, but I honestly don't see the point. If the book is making me not want to read it then I'll read something else that holds my attention.

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UnspentTx t1_jebiqtq wrote

No harm in skipping or skimming if one wants, but for me personally I have never, could never, and the idea never even crossed my mind 😛

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sept_douleurs t1_jebo8tv wrote

I only skim if I’m reading for a deadline. If I find myself wanting to skim while I’m reading for pleasure, I just put the book down. When I’m enjoying a book, I read every word.

That said, I might come back later to a book I put down if I feel like I just wasn’t in the right mood at the time.

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TimeWaterer t1_jebhvxd wrote

You're not delusional if you do.

I don't skim or skip. If I find the writer has lost me and I've tuned out for even a sentence, I'll go back and read it again.

So what if you skip entire chapters? Who cares? It's your time, your enjoyment. Spend it how you please.

What you take from a book is up to you and you're not hurting a single other person by skipping anything. If it appalls them that you do so, that's their problem - something they need to deal with.

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Disparition_2022 t1_jebkgci wrote

I never skip anything outright but sometimes if i'm reading like a fantasy novel and the author takes a break from the present story to start going on and on about some kind of mythology or thousands of years of backstory my eyes kind of glaze over and most of the words don't make it all the way into my brain.

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Gezz66 t1_jec1sr0 wrote

I read every word and sentence. If the meaning and context does not convey itself immediately, I will go back and read it again and again until it does. I read quite a lot of older fiction (including Dickens), so the relatively arcane style can be a challenge. But for me, reading is not only about pleasure, it is a learning experience and I'm happy for a book to take as long as it takes.

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iamapizza t1_jebimtf wrote

I do read everything, except when poems appear. My eyes and brain go into cat mode and refuse to read it and do anything but read it and look at everything except the poem. I just skip that.

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ItsBoughtnotBrought t1_jedqmly wrote

I think you said that it's what makes a 'good' reader, like skip if you want but it's not something someone has to learn to make them 'better' at reading for enjoyment. That's where the sticking point is. It doesn't make you better, and it doesn't make you worse. That's what rubbed me the wrong way about your comments.

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GraniteGeekNH OP t1_jeeeav3 wrote

Yeah, my comment was poorly worded; I didn't mean to be so didactic.

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thedrawerking t1_jee3wuz wrote

If I skim through a book, I won’t consider it read. If I read the summary through a wiki article OR online notes, I also have not read it.

If I’m reading for pleasure, I should be enjoying reading the book as a whole—if I skip chapters or skim it: that book would have not been very good for me and I won’t finish reading it. And I won’t put it on my list of read books. I’ll just pick another until I find one that can keep me entertained through and through.

I completely skim when I revisit my favorites though. Especially when I just want to go back to a particular part.

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Julieann1970 t1_jeboo6e wrote

There is nothing wrong with skipping or skimming, it’s just that I can’t do it as I feel I will miss something important in the plot. When younger I wondered how people could read so quickly. I thought that I must be such a slow reader. It didn’t make me read any differently though. Sometimes I might not be enjoying a book, but as I have invested the time and feel the need to see it through. I feel I should respect the author and 99 times out of 100 I end up getting something out of the book.

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Handyandy58 t1_jebpqvu wrote

There is no book cop in the sky making sure you read every word, so I don't see why this would be a source of worry for anyone. You can "read" a book however you want to read it. Personally, I don't know why someone would deliberately skip sections. If I don't want to be reading the book, I'd just as soon put it down and move on to the next things than keep turning the pages w/o really reading the content. But if that's how someone wants to handle things, then so be it.

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priceQQ t1_jecn1oq wrote

I do the opposite. I reread sections if I don’t get the point. I reread books that I love, my favorite books 4 times (maybe 5 soon). Read however you want, but as Nabokov said, “one cannot read a book: one can only reread it”.

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RoseIsBadWolf t1_jecw6kc wrote

I skip or skim gratuitous description, like in the Wheel of Time series. I usually don't miss anything important.

If I really like a book, I read it again and attempt not to skim. But honestly, even re-reading Lord of the Rings I'm like, "Do I really need to know about the grass that grew on this grave?"

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Character_Vapor t1_jefim66 wrote

>Particularly if you're reading for pleasure, do what pleases you!

If all I cared about was pleasure, I'd spend all my free time jerking off.

Obviously, do what you want, no one is going to kick down your door to stop you. But someone who regularly skips whole chapters or skims on the reg doesn't actually strike me as someone who genuinely cares about books or writing. They're just using a book as a dopamine button, useful only in is function to indulge themselves. It's not rooted in any sort of interest or valuing of literature as a thing to be savored and appreciated on its own terms.

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Z80a t1_jebgv5s wrote

I skip or skim whenever I feel like it

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Baconsommh t1_jecs07z wrote

No. If the author took the trouble to write a million words, and if one sets out to read the author’s book, one should read all million words.Don’t skip - you may miss something important.

Unless, that is, one is skimming a book as a way of deciding whether to read it in full. I skimmed LOTR twice, before falling in love with it.

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ohthemoon t1_jeekxx8 wrote

You can do whatever you want, but if you’re skipping and skimming, you’re not actually reading the book. Where is the line? One chapter skipped? 20% skimmed? You’re missing a lot. Just pick a different book

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New-Rip4617 t1_jeeuife wrote

"Do what pleases you" is such a dumb thing people say on this site. Sure, do what pleases you, but you didn't read the book and if you say you did, you are lying.

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ConsentireVideor t1_jebkd8x wrote

I don't skip anything when I'm reading for pleasure. I like to read slowly, pronouncing the text with my inner voice for full immersion. I will sometimes skip with rereads when I know a book very well and only want to read my favourite bits. And I most certainly skim through pages/chapters when I'm reading for work.

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mid-world_lanes t1_jebo0t1 wrote

Sometimes I’ll skim unintentionally during tense scenes. The instinctive desire to see what happens next, especially in a scene where a character or characters that I care about are in some kind of peril, can override my attempts to read thoroughly. Those situations make for great re-reads though.

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minimalist_coach t1_jebsg4u wrote

I don't skip or skim when reading. If I find myself wanting to skip ahead then that usually means the book is not interesting and I'll consider DNFing it, or doing what I call a slow read. A slow read for me is a book I'll read in small sessions over a long period of time while reading other books at my normal pace.

I do believe that each of us gets to choose how we interact with books, and I try to stay judgment-free about how others interact with books and try to ignore if anyone has an opinion on how I interact with books.

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writerbeing t1_jebtpqr wrote

I skip any scenes of graphic violence or sexual assault.

I try to avoid books that have content I don't want to read, but there are exceptions. Sometimes I like the overall story but don't want to expose myself to certain scenes that might upset me or bring up trauma. Or sometimes there will be a scene I wasn't expecting for that type of book.

People can read however they like. If someone wants to skip parts, that's their business.

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Raindrops_On-Roses t1_jebwj9l wrote

I skim sometimes, mostly unintentionally. If I get too excited or a really long description comes up, I'll (sometimes) start to skim.

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GraniteGeekNH OP t1_jeg7x61 wrote

Yes - and then I have to pull myself up and say "slow down!"

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Based_and_Pilled t1_jec5ftv wrote

You can skim with non-fiction, depending on the level of information you want to obtain. For fiction tho the point is to absorb the story, it’s not an index of information

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Equal-Chemistry-2226 t1_jec63c2 wrote

I tend to skip toward the end chapters where the story is near conclusion and some writers style to hasten the pace by switching voices or POV of the narration. this is where I skim pages just to get to the conclusion then I would backread when I know how the story would turn out. llol

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BlatchfordS t1_jedobai wrote

Otherwise always meeting deadlines in high school, I one night realized—to my horror—I had a test on the novel The Yearling the next day with only half the book read, so I was fated for an F. Then I thought, "I'll skim the second half but keep an eye out for the plot points." Remembering those, I took the test and got a B.

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writingonyou2 t1_jedoc6u wrote

I don't think there's a formula to reading. I used to have a rule with myself that i need to finish a book word for word. But I realized that there are too many books to read and only one lifetime. I don't want to waste my time with reading rules. Read how you want. I look at reading like eating. Whether I peel my potato, eat it with the skin, or fry it up as chips is no one's business.

I have another controversial approach to reading though: I read the last chapter first. If it's intriguing enough, I'll read the book in its entirety.

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0YaKnow t1_jeby0ux wrote

I’m a skimmer. To me, it’s like watching TV. Do you sit with your eyes glued to the screen 100% of the time or do you allow you’re attention to drift? If I’m watching something intense and more dramatic I’m going to focus 100% of the time, or nearly. I might wait until later in the day to watch and turn the lights off and set my phone to silent so I can focus more. If it’s something more light, like a sitcom maybe, my attention is going to drift a lot more. I might be texting or chatting with a friend - not giving all my attention to the show.

That’s how I read. Some books (and authors) I absolutely will not skim. I want to be immersed in every word. Other books I’m able to enjoy at a quicker pace without needing to be so focused on what I’m reading. And sometimes that changes within the book at different parts.

As someone who reads a lot, I’m really thankful I’ve learned to tailor my reading style to the book. There are a lot of fun books that are worth the read that I just wouldn’t have had time to read if I spend as much energy and focus on as I did with some heavier works.

I think it makes (for me) to tailor how I read between “This is how you lose the time war” and “house of leaves” and “if this book exists you’re in the wrong universe” and “The Martian.”

But there is no wrong way to enjoy a book!

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Wattryn t1_jec1xrr wrote

Most of my reading is fantasy. I skim fight scenes every time. If it turns out to just be back and forth trading of blows I skip forward entirely.

I used to read all of it out of a misguided sense of completionism but my retention of those scenes was just as bad as if I'd skimmed anyways.

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scarletseasmoke t1_jec25dt wrote

Sometimes the book is really good in general but mistakes were made. I'm not reading a full page or chapter of said mistakes in detail, but I'm also not DNFing an otherwise great story if it's just a small part 🤷

I think any fantasy reader can confirm too many authors write armor and battles without doing their research. The romance crowd must be familiar with the bad anatomy sex scenes. And the bookworms binging series know all about copy-paste descriptions and recaps. But I don't think those are bad enough to abandon good plots.

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No-Window-4691 t1_jecioq6 wrote

With my personality, I just could never skip or skim. I have to know everything. Although I personally skim/skip over sex scenes…just not interested in that….I guess I’m a prude…? 🤷‍♀️ If the book is bad enough to where I would want to skip, I’d probably just not finish it.

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mitkah16 t1_jedmfll wrote

I personally do not do it and if I do it, I ask myself why?

Last time I was doing that was from the Dexter books and I was becoming more and more pissed with the book because I was skipping too much. So I stopped and asked my partner to give me a summary instead.

If half the book is skipped, maybe just search for a summary? It could be the writing style of the author is not for you. Or your brain needs something different (lighter/heavier) at the moment.

I tend to have different books in my Currently Reading so I can switch my attention and keep my brain interested, and if I see one is not interesting I simply remove it. I think we have enough books in our “to read” lists that we shouldn’t really feel bad about removing some for not liking them.

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mdthornb1 t1_jecxr40 wrote

Sometimes I skim, especially at wordy descriptions- I’m looking at you les miserables. Nobody has the patience to read every word of a 20 pages description of the sewers of Paris.

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Romoreau t1_jed3brr wrote

I do it sometimes when I have my blank out moments. I usually try to catch myself and reread it but I know there's some books that I have accidentally skipped through.

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LexiiConn t1_jebhi25 wrote

I agree with you, OP. When reading for pleasure, I’m under no obligation to read every word, sentence, paragraph, whatever. Or to finish the book, for that matter. I read how I like. What I like. When I like.

That said, I generally do try to read as I assume the author intended. But, if a book doesn’t grab me within the first 10-15%, I have no issue with skipping ahead to see if it gets better. Occasionally, I’ll even skip to the very end, just to see how everything turns out (for books where I’m not invested in how we got there).

It’s a little more difficult with books of short stories, but I’ll generally try to give 2-3 stories a try to see if I like the author’s style. Again, I’ll skip through the volume.

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wHaTtHeSnIcKsNaCk t1_jebjc6l wrote

honestly i think the way i read is very skimmy in general😭 not that I skim everything or miss stuff, but i feel like literally it's the way I read

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GraniteGeekNH OP t1_jebkmee wrote

There are times when I have to mentally grab myself and make myself slow down and focus - I find I've skimmed so much I've lost the thread of the story or the tone of the work.

I think that's part of the concern that people have when they say you shouldn't skim - the worry that they'll start doing it too much and ruin the experience of reading.

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Davidstarr86 t1_jebhfb4 wrote

I get the impression on here sometimes that people think reading is an inherently noble pursuit - replete with traditions, ethics, and responsibilities. These same people tend to get pretty self righteous about it as well.

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Handyandy58 t1_jebq6w0 wrote

Yeah this comes across a lot on here. As if it is sinful to stop reading books, or there is some sort of personal XP bar that goes up with every book "read" and has some sort of moral weight to it. I think a lot of people treat reading too seriously compared to other artforms. You would rarely see someone taken to task for skipping songs on an album or quitting a TV show halfway through a season. But here we have daily threads of people wracked with guilt about how they might not be reading something the right way. Very strange.

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Sumtimesagr8notion t1_jed6hus wrote

I don't really ever see people getting shamed for skipping books. I do see countless posts of insecure people looking for validation because they didn't finish a book. These literature bullies don't really exist, it's just weird people who need the internet to tell them they it's ok to read YA books, or quit a book half way through

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Olorin_Ever-Young t1_jee5wje wrote

Not listening to all the songs on an album, or not finishing a TV show, is in no way equivalent to "reading" a novel by skipping every other page.

That'd be like watching a movie by fast forwarding past certain scenes, or skipping the first minute of a song.

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Character_Vapor t1_jefj3rz wrote

> As if it is sinful to stop reading books

There's nothing wrong with no finishing a book you're not into. Nothing at all.

Bout routinely just skipping chunks of books because you can't be bothered to put in the effort of experiencing the book the way it was written? Also fine I guess, no one will stop you, but it doesn't seem like you actually value these books as being worth your time or worth paying attention to. It's a failure of curiosity.

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Objective-Bug-1908 t1_jebp1gc wrote

I’m not a prude, or a crazy religious nut, but I usually skim or skip the sex scenes.

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GraniteGeekNH OP t1_jebteyx wrote

Agreed. Because they're usually boring. I'll skim to the end of it in case something happened that affects later scenes but otherwise, no.

And dream sequences.

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Aypher t1_jedibsj wrote

And thought sequences too

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