Submitted by BmoreCityDOT t3_106vky2 in baltimore
Cunninghams_right t1_j3m7mqy wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in All routes are running! Limited service will resume on each route, beginning 7am, Jan 9. by BmoreCityDOT
FYI, the buses in Baltimore cost about $3 per passenger mile.
[deleted] t1_j3m92u5 wrote
So in my experience then the micro-mobility stuff in New Orleans beats the cost of the bus here per mile, but in Baltimore it's actually more expensive to use the bike share. The city really does need to subsidize this stuff more if they want it to be more useful. Bringing back the docked bikes would probably help if they could manage it correctly this time.
Cunninghams_right t1_j3mqp2b wrote
short rides cost more because there is a fixed fee to start. an 8min ride would be a much shorter distance than the average bus trip. also, many of those companies offer subscriptions that offer a handful of free rides per day. if memory serves, one of them was $16. compare that to the unsubsidized cost of a monthly transit pass of about $300-$350.
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the problem with the docked bikes is that they're more expensive to manage and not as convenient because they aren't as distributed. docked can work somewhat ok as long as an efficient company is running it. the city running it would be multiple times more expensive. simply not worth it, especially given that it's so unlikely that it would be done well.
instantcoffee69 t1_j3nq84w wrote
What are you talking about. It's how much people pay. Public transportation should not require ROI or break even. Roads certainly don't.
A charmpass daily is between $4.60 and $2.48.
Your comments are nonsensical. It's clean you have no idea who rides the buss in Baltimore or even taken it if you think scooters and bikes are a better system.
Cunninghams_right t1_j3p8bjl wrote
Why should bikes/scooters break even? If people prefer them to transit, we should subsidize them like buses. A monthly charm pass actually costs about $300-350.
Also, I'm not saying we should replace buses with scooters/bikes, we can have both.
Also, if you don't think bikes/scooters are good transportation, would you like to wager on a race? Throw some darts at a map of Baltimore city and see who gets to each location the fastest, you on transit and me on a bike.
instantcoffee69 t1_j3qocsn wrote
Sorry boss, that's Transit Link Card, which covers:
- WMATA Metrorail and Metrobus
- Montgomery County RideOn
- DASH – Alexandria, VA
- MTA CityLink, LocalLink, Express BusLink (up charge included), Metro SubwayLink and Light RailLink
So if you're going to take MTA bus, to MARC, to Metro I got a feeling it's going to beat your scooter.
This confirmed my suspicion, you don't take the bus. Keep to your scooters.
Cunninghams_right t1_j3qtnxx wrote
again, it't not an either-or situation. I don't know why I have to keep explaining this. for trips within the city, scooters and bikes are better. if you're commuting to DC, then bikes and scooters make a good first/last mile mode. traditional transit and bike/scooters complement each other.
you can try to ignore that I was talking about within Baltimore and be a douche for no reason if you want, but it's hardly useful to anything but feeding your own ego. honestly, what value do you get in intentionally misinterpreting what I said? does it actually make you feel good? I do't understand. please explain it to me.
you're right, I don't take Baltimore's transit because I don't work in DC and I own a bike, which means I can get anywhere in the city easier, faster, and cheaper than taking transit. if I do need to go to DC, I either bring my bike or I rent a scooter when I get there because a bike or scooter still outperforms DC's transit for trips of less than about 8 miles (depending on the route).
so I'll ask again, if you think there is no value at all in bikes or scooters, please, lets wager and have a race WITHIN BALTIMORE CITY. we can throw darts at a map and race between, say, 4-5 locations.
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