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AllShadesObscura t1_j0vv2o6 wrote

SYG works will retreating fails. You didn’t break into your own house or stalked your own workplace, etc. I find it funny how the open and carry states get safer once the law passes. It’s truly a weird phenomenon. In the U.S., I think if consistently stand by our stereotypical principles of individuality, freedom to do anything that isn’t harmful to others, and Wild West responsible gun ownership, then it can work. We sadly don’t and keep the rhetoric of white supremacy and poor people are horrible people blah blah blah nonsense. Also, how many are mentioning George Zimmerman in the comments? His case was definitely an exception that shouldn’t have happened considering what he was told not to do to his meek teen neighbor.

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MotoSlashSix t1_j0wxkml wrote

I don’t know where you got that information but this is false. Open carry states do not get safer after OC passes. I lived in an open carry state for years before and after the law passed. Violent crime increased after the open carry law was passed. The same happened in Florida after SYG passed.

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AllShadesObscura t1_j0x7s0l wrote

My typing always gets horribly spell checked on these things. Please bear. Here’s a quick link. Obvious bias from Texas, but it is still something similar to what I’ve seen before. https://www.medlinfirm.com/blog/has-texas-open-carry-law-increased-gun-crimes/

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MotoSlashSix t1_j0xjk7n wrote

There has not even been a single complete calendar year since Texas passed their open carry law. This article is looking over a period of months, not years. So how does this illustrate violent crime declined when they haven’t had even a single a calendar year of data to look at? In multiple other states — including my home state — violent crime has increased since passage of open carry. More importantly, in states with open carry the violent crime rate is higher than the national average. In any event, assuming correlation is causation is s fallacy in either direction.

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