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TheSpektrModule t1_j1721uv wrote

Reply to comment by islander1 in Baltimore police investigate 39 rideshare carjacking, robbery cases since November by ThatguyfromBaltimore

I'm still angry.

I knew damned well that carjacking was not ok when I was a teenager.

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islander1 t1_j174szh wrote

and you grew up completely impoverished in a dangerous ghetto, right?

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troublewthetrolleyeh t1_j18g02v wrote

Look, a lot of people grew up in Baltimore City and didn’t carjack and rape women in their teens. I’m all for extending sympathy to people committing crimes to survive but what part of rape benefits a young perpetrator? They didn’t have to do that.

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islander1 t1_j18tz13 wrote

Oh, totally agree with anything past the carjacking/robbery.

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bmore t1_j18jwnn wrote

Over here thinking children make rational, logic based decisions

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troublewthetrolleyeh t1_j18khzr wrote

We are not normalizing teenagers raping adults.

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islander1 t1_j18u1nh wrote

No, we aren't. I was referring to the carjacking itself and/or robbery.

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There's never an excuse for rape.

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bmore t1_j18ljoo wrote

Nobody is normalizing this shit. It's terrible. But you brought a cost benefit analysis into it with your comment, and we know through the science of brain development kids can't make decisions in the same way adults can. It's frankly why youth crime is so terrifying, because it's so unpredictable.

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holden118 t1_j18q7g7 wrote

You clearly dont understand that the kids now and days dont give a shit. Look at Milford Mill high school for a perfect example. Id argue that 90% of that school should fail every semester but they dont fail them because it looks bad when a title 1 school that is 98% aferican american fails almost all their kids. They have produced one Ivy league student in the last 10 years. Most of that school doestn go to college and the ones that do come back and always say that Milford did nothing to prepare them for college. These kids dont have accountability in school, they dont learn anything. My gf has been threatened by students parents because their little shit is failing school because their kid refuses to do anything.

Blaming brain development is just a excuse. My 11 and 7 year old kids know not to steal cars and rape people. Thats not going to change with they become 17. Its not a brain thing, its a how they were raised thing. You just dont want to admit for whatever reason.

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islander1 t1_j18uau2 wrote

>Blaming brain development is just a excuse. My 11 and 7 year old kids know not to steal cars and rape people. Thats not going to change with they become 17. Its not a brain thing, its a how they were raised thing

Were they raised in an environment where parents were around to show them love and affection?

Were they raised in a relatively stable household with food, clothing, and electricity/shelter?

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holden118 t1_j19cq48 wrote

Once again more excuses. Just because you weren't raised right doesn't give you a free pass to whatever you want. Just because you might have had a hard time in life doesn't give you the permission to rob people. I was bullied every day in school since 4th grade. I don't take my shitty experience and use it as an excuse to rob/rape people.

Those kids know what they are doing, they should be tried as adults and live in a cell for a few years. Its the same reason we charge kids as adults when they murder someone. Kids aren't stupid and using those excuses just gives them an easy out.

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islander1 t1_j19d9rj wrote

Oh yeah, being bullied is exactly the same as being poor, parentless, living in a home without electricity or money.

Fuck sake.

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holden118 t1_j1ad4sp wrote

And yet none of those things are excuses for being a pos that steals cars and robs people of their hard earned money.

fuck sake

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islander1 t1_j1aeqo0 wrote

Just one of many clueless takes in this thread.

My point is understanding the why behind these, for once.

If these kids had an actual opportunity to 'earn money' the vast majority would.

Until these problems are reconciled, it's going to get worse - not better.

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bmore t1_j19fq2b wrote

Evidence definitively proves you wrong. I'm not sharing opinions, I'm sharing facts based on extensive peer reviewed research. You are simply wrong. It's basically like you're calling the world flat.

It's extra disappointing because what you're calling for (charging and incarcerating youth as adults) is proven to cause higher rates of recidivism, which is exactly opposite the end goal.

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TheSpektrModule t1_j1sj1vx wrote

I was absolutely capable of understanding basic morality as a child.

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