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iforgottolaughlol t1_j16t88n wrote

When a person is a juvenile, they still know that these crimes are wrong. There's no excuse.

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Thanatosst t1_j16uy4p wrote

They also know that there's little to no consequences due to their age.

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islander1 t1_j16zicv wrote

and they also are doing it because they have no other practical choices in life.

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TheSpektrModule t1_j1723ac wrote

Total BS. Nobody is being forced to commit carjackings.

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islander1 t1_j174mtp wrote

I'm not justifying it, they should all be punished/rehabbed; but these kids are doing it because they are born into a life with no future.

When I hear people say "no one is forced into it" I hear someone who hasn't got a fucking clue what a hard life is actually like.

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bookoocash t1_j184f1b wrote

Yeah but there is also the simple fact that the kids doing this make up a very small portion of kids in this city who come from virtually identical circumstances, the overwhelming majority of which choose not to victimize other people. This is absolutely a choice and they could have gone another way.

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Thanatosst t1_j17cf18 wrote

I'm fully aware of the correlation/causation of poverty and crime/violent crime. That isn't going to ever be fixed except by drastic, sweeping reforms of the way the country operates. Until then, it's basically a free-for-all where you can't depend on anyone else to protect you, physically or financially.

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Mildred_RatchedRN t1_j191vhe wrote

Most poor people actually don't become criminals.

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islander1 t1_j192la8 wrote

even less people become criminals when they don't have to worry where their next meal is coming from, or when they are able to have a home, transportation, and an actual job option.

The fucking entitlement in this thread is amazing, and the sad part is - 10 years ago I'd think example the same as you lot.

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Mildred_RatchedRN t1_j193l9e wrote

Poverty is a reasonable justification for many things, but it never just makes someone a rapist or murderer. Frankly, you're coming off like someone without any personal experience with poverty

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islander1 t1_j194iau wrote

  1. I never justified poverty for murder or rape. See previous posts.

  2. true poverty? No. I grew up in a household where my father went bankrupt 3 times. We had to cheat on taxes for years to keep bills paid, and eventually got audited/in trouble. Bills such as power barely got paid. We ate, but not well. I had it great compared to people in the inner city.

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Mildred_RatchedRN t1_j1956y8 wrote

Perhaps you just don't know what you're talking about. I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. You obviously have an ideological agenda, and good luck with that.

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islander1 t1_j196ivc wrote

or perhaps you're just mis-interpreting the message I'm attempting to get across. Have a good one.

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Dylan552 t1_j18ld0z wrote

Well and I think it depends a lot on the crime, if a kid is stealing a package or vandalizing something I can see the argument that yea they may know better but it could be seen fairly harmless in their minds.

But when you are out car jacking people, robbing them etc there’s no excuse

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LunarLorkhan t1_j18vvmt wrote

Technically they don’t. It’s proven that the parts of their brains that understand long term consequences and control impulse are underdeveloped. Hence why the drinking age is 21 and the U.S. military likes to recruit kids.

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