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This is not the company or sub to have that good faith discussion. Would advise against.

Go for it. I see criticisms of certain fav politicos removed. Race discussions stay around. Be respectful about it. Doubt you'll be kicked off reddit. Or even have your post removed. Mixed race trans woman here. Grew up here. Left for college in TX. Came back in 2016ish. Happy to partake in the discussion.

i've seen it happen here when people actually want a good faith discussion and don't just want to stir shit or have people agree with them. depends on how flexible you feel going in.

You'd probably have an easier time discussing your Tesla, your dog, IPAs, or inherently lazy government workers.

It is a topic which needs to be had, but ground rules have to be set for all sides. I find the topic, as well as many others, which are part of our city's ongoing problems to be avoided by civic leaders.

With all the colleges in the area, and all having professors holding down tenured jobs who specialty has to do with social, legal,history, and human relations, they seem to hide from providing their expertise and leadership in these complex issues.

I’ll make it easy for you. There’s different races in Baltimore and some people in Baltimore are racist. I hope that helps you

> I see criticisms of certain fav politicos removed.

Word? You talking about reddit at large?

I find that a lot of these conversations are better done one to one, and in person if possible. It is really hard to not either just find an echo chamber or a battle royale on public online forums, in my experience.

I would say make a subreddit but I don’t think you want that level of trolling in your life.

My opinion is NEVER do it on the internet. Go to a local bar and strike up conversations. Be respectful and do your best to LISTEN to what the other person is saying. I’ve gained an incredible amount of knowledge of how people live and some of the struggles that they come across in their lives that I would have never even thought of. On the flip side, once you show that respect and prove that you are truly trying to learn, you can share your opinion without being immediately labeled as a racist which will 100% happen with an online discussion.

Honestly this is probably the play. Keep it small and once you get a critical mass, maybe switch to private.

Alcohol + race chats + a bar in Baltimore … what could go wrong? It’s a trap.

It’s the reddit way right? There is a subreddit for everything.

Tons of far right posts on the Next Door app. As far as I can tell most of those are in the Southern part of Baltimore County & AA County. As I will most likely move out of the City in 10 or so years I gave determined I will never head there.

I suggest start it based around a book on the subject, such as Pietila’s “Not in My Neighborhood,” I would be interested in that. That way people come into it presumably a little educated and it doesn’t turn into some stereotyping gripefest about black squeegee kids and white county drug tourists.

Step one: Don’t be racist?

LMAOOO

lol, you're a mod in this sub. I didn't even mention her name yesterday. My comment pointed out when she moved here. What she ran for. What zoning changed. Who gets fined. Why the neighborhood's being destroyed.

tbf you're not the mod who was dogpiling me and someone else. BUT you can see what's removed in the sub. Can't you?

As a white male who grew up in Baltimore. I don’t get why people say this is so prevalent. I’m 36 years old and never have I seen it. The only thing I’ve seen is poor people being taken advantage of. Nothing to do with race.

If you’re racist and live in Baltimore it’s gonna be tough going for sure

Well you're speaking generically and a lot of people over the years have sworn up and down that you can't criticize (insert politician here) and then I have to go through and show all the times that person was criticized where it's plainly visible on the sub. And then I don't hear much after that. Because typically it isn't criticism per se, it's someone on a mission, trying to share someone's personal information or doing something way above and beyond criticism.

We've had people swear you can't talk about SRB. Swear you can't criticize Mosby, or Brandon Scott, or whoever. And it always ends up coming back to something like "You wouldn't let me call them a @#%#$ and post their license plate numbers and personal information. Silenced all my life!!!11"

It's kind of similar to this post. Race and racism get talked about all day every day on reddit, in this sub and elsewhere. Yet people have approached us like "I am not allowed to discuss race on here and it's not fair", when in reality when asked what they want to talk about, they can't articulate it and ultimately its clear it's some over the top "why can't I use the N word when I see THEM say it ALL THE TIME???" stuff.

It was criticism. Not personal. I didn't post a name or license plate or personal info. I posted these 2 people moved here in 20xx. They got cozy with the dude was councilman back then. AND cozy with xxxx truck companies. Then zoning changed so xxxx trucking companies could build in a residential area. AND I posted the link to the campaign reports in my second comment. 1/4 of fukking neighborhood moved out because they start sh!t with anyone who criticized them.

a few months back I posted the actual fines I get. OK. My bad. Remove that because it had her name as reporting me for "trash can lid being not completely closed". BUT my comment yesterday had 0 personal info. It was city zoning committee details. People could research if they wanted. If you run for office you open yourself up to that. Be transparent.

The other thing is mod maiios. When xxxx person or her alt or her supporters or her trolls or whoever they claim it was dogpiled people from xxxx neighborhood for criticizing her. AND for calling out blatant lies. Screenshots of maiios stanning for her were all over that group chat. It was beyond. I wish I hadn't deleted it. It was literally maiios telling xxxx or her alt how to get people banned from the sub. Then xxxx sending screen shots like "f off even the reddit mods love me".

exact same thing on the neighborhood nextdoor. She made herself and her alt admins. Banned anyone who criticized her. Claims everyone loves her because no one ever writes different. spoiler alert - we can't complain there. we're all banned. Meanwhile 4+ truck accidents every day because the damn roads aren't made for trucks.

it's your sub. You can read what I wrote. not personal info.

Eh, it depends on the situation and people involved. Consequently the city's history, Baltimore has a lot of decent, non-racist white folks. But some of these businesses and institutions are not.

Antero's work is good. He touches on the subject of how Baltimore's racial climate within the city's history.