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sllewgh t1_ixakvad wrote

Reply to comment by jjenni08 in “Controversy emerges over changes to Baltimore’s Central Avenue streetscape as it nears completion” (Baltimore Sun) by moderndukes

This is gonna blow your fuckin' mind, but get this- the city of Baltimore is capable of doing multiple things at once.

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jjenni08 t1_ixatkvg wrote

Sure they can. Hence the reason they have had 300 homicides in one city in one year and road construction is everyone’s concern.

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MotoSlashSix t1_ixb0otz wrote

Yeah man wtf with these people?!?! It’s as if there are 578,298 people in Baltimore who still have to deal with traffic or something.

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TerranceBaggz t1_ixd3ybd wrote

More than half of our population doesn’t own cars. So no 578k people don’t have to deal with auto traffic. That’s the point, focusing on cars and putting them first over everything else is choosing to focus on the wealthiest citizen and more so county residents over city residents. You have to pick one. Building Stroads to get county folk to their downtown jobs as quickly as possible drastically decreases quality of life for the people who live in the neighborhoods that those roads go through (historically, these neighborhoods have been overwhelmingly poor and/or black.)

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MotoSlashSix t1_ixd9e55 wrote

First, please show me where I said to focus on cars and put them first over everything else?

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>(historically, these neighborhoods have been overwhelmingly poor and/or black.)

I live in a neighborhood near Central and Monument. My neighborhood's population is 87% black, the average home purchase price here is $55,000 and our median household income is below the median for the city. I kind of get it.

>More than half of our population doesn’t own cars. So no 578k people don’t have to deal with auto traffic.

I'm one of those people who doesn't own a car. The notion that we don't also have to deal with auto traffic is news to me. So you're telling me -- a pedestrian and public transit user 90% of the time and ride share user the other 10% -- doesn't have to deal with auto traffic on my commutes? Please tell me how that works because it sounds wonderful. I was unaware that when I'm walking I don't have to deal with auto traffic. When I ride the bus I don't have to deal with auto traffic? Please share how that works.

But I think you missed the point: Everyone who goes anywhere in this city has to deal with auto traffic -- whether they concern themselves with the murder rate or not. So, yeah, we get, it there were 300 murders in our city, that doesn't change the fact that the rest of us have to go on about our lives. The homicide rate is awful; the other 99.999% of us who are still alive can concern ourselves with the traffic we have to deal with every day while we also concern ourselves with violent crime.

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DfcukinLite t1_ixb65t1 wrote

I didn’t know Baltimore committed those murders. I thought the accountability fully falls on the people who committed said crime… silly me!

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jjenni08 t1_ixbxcjf wrote

Wow you people are a sensitive bunch.

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TerranceBaggz t1_ixjbmom wrote

No one here is being sensitive, but your pointless and obvious comment is just a senseless refrain and nothing more. We all know there are a lot of murders here. But they’re a symptom of larger problems. One of the main factors is social inequity. Improving transit for the poorest people improves their quality of life, which in turn decreases poverty, and lowers crime rates. Bringing up the murders in this city any other issue is even slightly tackled is just stale and pointless.

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TerranceBaggz t1_ixd3gu4 wrote

Do you think DOT has any control over homicides? Do you know what the #1 factor in social mobility is? It’s transit. If you want to lift people out of poverty and as a result lower crime, you provide transit for the poorest in society. I’ve got news for you, poor people cannot afford cars. It’s why over half of our population doesn’t own a car in Baltimore. You really need to look at urban planning books or at least channels on YouTube and learn why cars are so harmful to cities. Carbrain is a disease, but it’s a curable one.

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