VirginBarryGaming t1_iu431dj wrote
He has a point. Taking out the “historically successful part” Ye said a lot about black folk and no one in power or charge cared. Feels just like DaBaby. The second they stopped trashing blacks and started trashing others, their careers derailed.
aresef OP t1_iu47r18 wrote
Saying slavery was a choice really should’ve been the end of the road for Ye.
todareistobmore t1_iu4acif wrote
He said Nazi shit in that interview too. People really need to dial back their takes on this. I'm sure somebody could glean something interesting from the fact that TMZ in 2018 and Tucker Carlson last week both saw a benefit to airing sanitized interviews with Kanye but by that point it's easier to leave Smith out of it altogether.
TheRainbowpill93 t1_iu4c7z6 wrote
No we not doing this. Us black folk laughed and made jokes about his antics and didn’t take anything seriously , how you mad because one community is actually defending themselves and not accepting bullshit.
Furthermore, he said his anti black nonsense and we still bought Yeezes and made the man a billionaire.
Dr_Midnight t1_iu5sxb5 wrote
> No we not doing this. Us black folk laughed and made jokes about his antics and didn’t take anything seriously , how you mad because one community is actually defending themselves and not accepting bullshit.
> Furthermore, he said his anti black nonsense and we still bought Yeezes and made the man a billionaire.
I have a quick question: "We"?
Precisely who is this "we" that you're referring to? Likewise, who are "us Black folk" in this scenario? I ask because, among those that I choose to associate with, "we" have consistent principles and don't seek to willingly and actively fund those who do damage to "us Black folk".
You may have been more than happy to laugh at him, make jokes about his antics, not take him seriously, and proceed to give him your money in exchange for one or more pairs of his Yeezes.
In the meantime, please adjust your language to use the singular. If you're to use the plural, then I would ask that you drop the monolithic statements, focus your wideranging statements to specific entities, and kindly leave "us Black folk" out of it while "we" continue to call him out on his bullshit.
Thanks,
- Management.
TheRainbowpill93 t1_iu5yc9d wrote
Obviously I’m speaking in general and by the end of the day , if it didn’t apply to you , then it wasn’t about you.
The “we” and “us” know who they are and believe me , I have seen it first hand ! I’m sure you have too.
Dr_Midnight t1_iu6awvh wrote
> Obviously
Obviously it's not that obvious or I wouldn't have addressed it - particularly when you use terms like "we" and "us" that confer inclusion of self; and the monolithic statements don't do anyone any good.
> if it didn’t apply to you , then it wasn’t about you.
Regardless, it still needs to be called out.
> I have seen it first hand ! I’m sure you have too.
Since the topic at hand is anti-Antisemitism, let me ask you: have you ever seen anyone of Jewish faith or ethnically so use terms like "we" and "us as Jewish folk" as a descriptive statement when referring to people who are also Jewish such as Ben Shapiro who downplay anti-Semitic comments, or who themselves espouse similar ideals?
No.
You haven't.
Just like I've seen Black Israelites and members of the Nation of Islam - both of whom are known for prominently espousing anti-Semitic rhetoric, but I'm not running around referring to them as "US" and "WE" just because their membership happens to be Black.
So, with that said, I reiterate: if you want to refer to yourself, then refer to yourself. If you want to refer to people you know [of], then refer to people you know [of]. Otherwise, keep "US" out of it.
Thanks.
thebenshapirobot t1_iu6axzj wrote
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>If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution... It’s time to stop being squeamish.
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todareistobmore t1_iu47kft wrote
> Ye said a lot about black folk and no one in power or charge cared.
The difference between Smith on Wednesday and you today is, well, https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/27/entertainment/kanye-west-hitler-album
YoYoMoMa t1_iu4h731 wrote
>Ye said a lot about black folk and no one in power or charge cared.
Yeah. I am not sure that people didn't care about what he said so much as they didn't feel empowered to make a big deal about it on behalf of black people. It might be similar if a Jewish person was saying anti Semitic shit. Or it might not.
Certainly a sign we need more minorities in positions of power in the media and elsewhere.
TheRainbowpill93 t1_iu4lx0v wrote
You don’t need to be in a position of power to not buy Yezees lol. But y’all did anyways.
Just like R Kelly, we knew about him but we still listened to his music anyways.
We really have to hold each other accountable. That’s our problem.
brownshoez t1_iu5esq0 wrote
Because there are less (or no) consequences when a person bashes their own group. What would have happened if a white person said the idiotic things he said about black people?
aresef OP t1_iud46if wrote
Yeah, think of how long it took for people to start really talking about Bill Cosby.
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