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S-Kunst t1_j9zonlv wrote

As a boomer, I agree , urban planners only looks at the needs in one way. The idea that the city needs to be the center of attention is wrong, was wrong 100 yrs ago. Back then, the car and trolley was making inroads on the city's need for being of central importance. Cities should have expanded their service base and made city offices more even spread through out its boundaries. This would have encouraged compliance with things like zoning and permits, as people would not have to run the evil gauntlet of getting through downtown traffic and competing for parking with the workers.

Additionally, our cities lost their purpose when the fed & state governments usurped city infrastructure and made them available to the suburbs.

Unlike Europe and northern cities, Southern cities never made investments in the suburbs, including rail travel, so bedroom communities like those found on the Philly "Main Line" were not built. In those areas, people 20-30 miles outside of a city have no problem using train travel to get to work.

Lastly I think forming new "towns" or settlements, in the surrounding counties, are easier to insert good public transit than trying to re-fit extant urbanized areas, though it needs to be planned and not left to the developers to ignore, as we have seen in the formation of Crofton, and currently in Middle River & Belcampe.

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Cunninghams_right t1_j9zqy3b wrote

>The idea that the city needs to be the center of attention is wrong

spoken like a true boomer. if you look around the world at the locations where the planning is optimal, they focus on the city center first. this is not disputable, but for some reason boomers can't understand that things like density, or location of services, matter when it comes to transit.

>Lastly I think forming new "towns" or settlements, in the surrounding counties, are easier to insert good public transit than trying to re-fit extant urbanized areas

not even remotely true. if you're talking purely about building the transit line, then sure. but if you're talking about the number of people served by the line per dollar, then you're not even close to correct. moreover, your claim would only be true if tax/subsidy structure was such that new development was forced to either be along existing lines or to build new connections and not be spread-out mono-zoning.

you couldn't be further from correct on all measures. your way of thinking is why transit in the US is broken and why cities are not livable and are choked with car traffic.

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