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SnooRevelations979 t1_j7s6lit wrote

Reply to comment by MinistryofTruthAgent in 23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results by bobbyw24

Great. Do you have some counter examples of schools serving a poor student body (whatever their race) that do well on standardized tests?

I'm all ears.

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MinistryofTruthAgent t1_j7sna8s wrote

How economically disadvantaged do you want examples for? What’s the benchmark?

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SnooRevelations979 t1_j7soujw wrote

Similar to students in Baltimore City, which has about a 33% child poverty rate.

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SnooRevelations979 t1_j7spurp wrote

I also didn't realize that there was a singular Asian culture.

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MinistryofTruthAgent t1_j7swz6i wrote

It’s similar in that a lot of Asian cultures are influenced by Confucianism.

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SnooRevelations979 t1_j7tzr8j wrote

You're talking about East Asian cultures, not Asian cultures in general. Most aren't influenced by Confucianism all that much.

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MinistryofTruthAgent t1_j7uyjx6 wrote

Vietnam is also influenced by it. A lot of other Asian countries such as Malaysia, Singapore, all had significant migration of Han Chinese people. If you’re talking about Laos, Thailand, Cambodia then I’d agree with you.

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SnooRevelations979 t1_j7xexli wrote

Vietnam was under suzerainty of China for a long time, and Singapore is majority Chinese. In the rest of Southeast Asia, the Chinese are a minority -- they often been called the Jews of the area -- and Confucianism doesn't have much pull. (Most Malay Chinese are Hokkien, not Han, btw, but Han Chinese was a made up ethnicity anyway. Nonetheless, my point holds: there is no singular Asian culture.

And back to the original topic, it seems you are comparing Asian immigrants and their children's performance in school and our own city's largely Black student body. Even if it held as a counterpoint to what I originally wrote (which it doesn't), do you really think that's a fair comparison? Koreans are traditionally neck and neck with Greeks as being the most educated immigrants. The first wave of Vietnamese immigrants -- largely Catholic mandarins attached to the allied South Vietnamese government -- did much better academically than the second wave (the less affluent).

But, more importantly, with the exception of refugees (Vietnamese, Lao, Khmer), Asian immigrants have already gone through a self-selection equivalent to being admitted to a magnet school by the very act if immigrating and had the wealth to get here. (Note that the population of China is far less educated than our own.) Your comparing this filterd population with a broader population who was denied education of any sort and their labor stolen for 200 years, and then had another century of Apartheid, before being economically isolated in "freedom"?

Please. Let me know when you've found those poor, high-performing schools, btw.

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