sonney88 t1_j7rn0dj wrote
Reply to comment by ahbagelxo in 23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results by bobbyw24
I’m gonna be honest here man the way the world is moving if these kids don’t keep up the future just doesn’t seem that bright for this county I mean I get what your saying but there are kids in India and China that are wizzing through your page 1- 10 curriculum, and I think the underlining issue is not the math, but it’s how it’s taught
ahbagelxo t1_j7rs0x8 wrote
There are certainly issues with how we teach and what we prioritize, but I wouldn't necessarily argue that the whizzing through this type of material is ideal either. The education systems in many countries completely depends on drill and kill. Just rote memorization and practice, with little to no creativity or development of skills beyond those. There's a balance between much of what we see here, and what's offered there. The countries you mentioned also have little to no resources for people with disabilities. Both would be horrible places for most of my students to be born, as they too would be expected to whiz through everything, which just wouldn't be possible for most of them (processing delays, vision issues, dyslexia, etc). I think we need to improve a lot about how and what we teach, but I disagree that the examples you provided are the model we should aspire to.
MinistryofTruthAgent t1_j7s35ow wrote
We don’t teach creativity and development of skills in the US either.
ahbagelxo t1_j7s9f12 wrote
Nope not very well at least. We have like 50 million issues. But one thing we do better than most of the world, but still poorly in many many instances, is ensure our disabled students have access to some kind of education. My disabled friends who have travelled could tell you the US is leagues beyond most of the world, even with it's many many flaws (which I also abhor and could go on and on about). Basically, it's all flawed and messed up systemically but there are still some bright spots (at least in regards to international comparisons) among the many many downsides.
sonney88 t1_j7searz wrote
Yeah but this is just one class room your classroom of disabled kids, the rest of the 27 schools that kids are failing in math are not all disabled kids, and idk about you but when you check these big corporations like Exelon, Verizon, Microsoft and so on those names in the sr executives and fields that require more complex math you see South East Asian, and Asian names
MinistryofTruthAgent t1_j7snll6 wrote
But when you take each education system as a whole, which one is better? Would you rather have 27 schools having 0 students passing math? Or having 27 schools with everyone passing math except those who have some kind of intellectual disability?
sonney88 t1_j7sf2cl wrote
I mean it’s not the model I want our kids to aspire by either but it’s the reality of the fact minus your disabled students, how many of the regular students are grasping the math? Not many all im saying is drill and kill is working and there getting work visas to come and get jobs our kids should be getting while our youth incarceration rate is going up and drop out rate going up as well,
taketheleap22 t1_j7u12y0 wrote
I am curious though if previous generations would have been able to pass these tests. Like was this always an issue and we're just noticing cause we're measuring or is this a new thing. And if it's new why? And when did it begin
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