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CassandraVindicated t1_izzkaqt wrote

Well, at least nature did it first. I'm ex-Navy and it is an awful fact. It's not needed and isn't worth the price.

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HardlightCereal t1_izzplfp wrote

Who would have guessed that the branch of the government dedicated to killing people would kill animals too???

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CassandraVindicated t1_izzr1fw wrote

Ok, that's a fair point, but what these new sonars can do, it's like setting off a small nuke underwater. That's a little bit extreme; we wouldn't just nuke some land based target willy nilly. We shouldn't be doing it in the ocean.

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DaSaw t1_izzt6in wrote

Fortunately, I have heard that the Navy have been investigating a passive alternative. You know how someone who is intimately familiar with the sounds of a forest can detect the approach of dangerous animals (including humans) by noticing changes in the sound of animals and insects and stuff? Apparently, they're working on a system that can use marine sounds for the same purpose.

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UsedUpSunshine t1_j03rwqo wrote

I’d throw money at people for that to get done. Other night I was sitting outside enjoying nature when suddenly it got too quiet. The dogs stopped barking, the bugs went quiet. I jumped in my car real quick. Even I felt that there was something lurking. Didn’t see what it was, but I didn’t leave the car again for a while.

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HardlightCereal t1_izzrj9w wrote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/06/13/report-the-u-s-military-emits-more-co2-than-many-industrialized-nations-infographic/

The consequences of climate collapse due to CO2 pollution could potentially be as damaging to the environment as a nuclear war. So yes, the military does effectively nuke land based targets willy-nilly

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CassandraVindicated t1_j0dtd85 wrote

The military (at least in the US) is not anywhere near being close to a top polluter. They led the way in remote solar and organically produced fuel. They've effectively become one of the oldest green friendly organizations.

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