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makesomemonsters t1_it22vli wrote

Reply to comment by JawnBewty in What actually makes an athlete durable? Or alternatively, why are some athletes "injury prone"? by RIPEOTCDXVI

Regarding anabolic steroid use, if tests typically indicate whether the person has used PEDs in recent weeks, but not whether they used any months ago, then I wonder what proportion of pro athletes juiced before going pro and only stopped once they had turned pro and were likely to get tested.

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JawnBewty t1_it2lzx3 wrote

There was this guy, who was absolutely dominant in college (thanks in part to anabolics) and then couldn't compete at the pro level once he was off the juice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Mandarich

He was the most egregious example - I mean, the guy just looked like he was on steroids, lol.

https://roidvisor.com/tony-mandarich-stopped-using-steroids-starting-abusing-painkillers/

But it's not like amateur athletes aren't tested. In America, the NCAA tests for steroids and such.

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2016/7/20/ncaa-drug-testing-program.aspx

I think nearly all steroid-enhanced amateur athletes get filtered out, quite honestly. It's pretty obvious when a guy is juicing, quite honestly, especially to his coach and teammates. They know each others' bodies and they know who is putting in time in the weight room and who is showing gains that are totally unrealistic.

NOBODY wants them on their team. First of all, nobody wants to compete for jobs against those guys. And guys like that on your team are a huge risk. You don't want to build a team around a guy who is one test away from getting a lengthy suspension. Pro teams don't want to invest money in a guy like that. Etc.

There's also the fact that only a few sports even benefit from bulked dudes. You never really hear about steroids in basketball, hockey, or soccer because those aren't sports where you would benefit from looking like the Incredible Hulk and in fact carrying extra bulk would be a detriment. Only certain football positions and certain baseball positions.

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EBtwopoint3 t1_it5l3te wrote

I think this is a little naive. Anabolics may have fallen out of favor for athletes but that’s because better stuff was created. PEDs, which is what people colloquially mean by steroids, are caught in the systems of athletes every year. For example in 2022 alone DeAndre Hopkins and Fernando Tatis both served long suspensions for PEDs. Yes, they both used the old fall back of a banned substance was contained in a legal workout supplement but that’s a really thin excuse. They aren’t using them to get huge anymore, they are using them for improved energy, endurance, and the key for football: recovery.

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