Submitted by Grand-Tension8668 t3_1125ccr in askscience
So... I have two competing mental models of what EM radiation actually is from a mechanical perspective. (Turns out a "mechanical perspective" might not be possible which is... distressing.)
- Photons are not EM radiation, but they have EM "fields" around them in the same way that, say, protons and neutrons have "fields" that interact with each other, and those "fields" are where the "waves" come in. These fields are not governed by particles, but are rather some vague other thing.
OR:
- Photons are EM radiation, and they move in a straight line... but only when we're paying close attention, because wave-particle duality. They are the medium propegating the "waves".
I must be wrong either way. Because we can measure these waves in terms of length, specifically in nanometers.
I'm inclined to think that I'm closer to reality with #1 considering that "reducing all forces to collision" is apparently a lost cause which my brain is really having trouble accepting as anything but magical thinking.
If #1 is closer to the correct way of viewing things, you're telling me that this particular spooky action at a distance occurs over great enough distances to be expressed in nanometers? And more importantly, how can we even measure that it occurs in "waves" spanning nanometers? I know it's describing a "vector field" but doesn't that still require some thing that could be detected and measued as having a velocity, and therefore momentum and mass, i.e. a bunch of particles?
And what do photons even do in this context? I've seen them described as essentially a side-effect?
Edit: I love all the discussion occuring but it's also made me realize that the body of my post mostly goes beyond the question. The question being, we're able to describe the physical wavelength in nanometers of these waves that apparently aren't oscillating in space so much as they oscillate between electric and magnetic fields. ...how do you assign a unit of length to that?
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