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HighVulgarian t1_j350g5g wrote

Illegal search and seizure all for “safety”. On the plus side, they’ve solved all the other crimes in the area

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DJScrubatires t1_j3510ob wrote

Shouldn't the State Police be more concerned with the stolen OT?

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elemenopppppp t1_j352wmj wrote

I remember going through one on route 20 in front of Sheldon’s. I pull up, trooper comes to the window and asks “have you been drinking tonight?” I replied “yes sir I had two X and an X about 3-4 hours ago!” He chuckles and says “ok have a great rest of your night” and I was on my way.

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Dwm182 t1_j35lf50 wrote

So basically, keeping the roads safe does infringe on our 4th amendment rights. However, the benefit of road safety does, per court, outweigh the cost to freedom. In addition, to offset the infringement of our rights, police must post notice of date and time, and very, very vague location of where the checkpoint will be (i.e. Worcester county; and not in front of dunks on park Ave)

I'm a civil libertarian and this shit burns me up.

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HighVulgarian t1_j35wh93 wrote

By that logic the government would be right to confiscate guns in the interest of keeping everyone safe. It’s a violation of personal liberty, I don’t want to be harassed when I’m driving sober and safely

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sloppyredditor t1_j36c2q8 wrote

Just put them at construction lanes, give the statie something to do.

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CoolAbdul t1_j36gwi5 wrote

It will be on Chandler Street next to Foley Stadium. It always is.

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spitfish t1_j36nhyl wrote

> It all goes back to driving being a privilege, not a right.

Very true, but the only issue with this is that American cities are built around vehicles, not pedestrians. You're screwed if you lose access to a vehicle.

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wsdog t1_j36ry5r wrote

Yeap, this is very sad. For some reason everyone has a right to have a metal thing that shoots bullets, but driving another metal thing that just gets you from A to B is a privilege.

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sloppyredditor t1_j36tkuc wrote

I'd love to see a more bicycle-friendly infrastructure like the Netherlands.

The response to the "I'm screwed if they take away my license/vehicle" is "Drive safely and they won't," and honestly I'm OK with that.

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NaNoBook t1_j377mji wrote

If DUIs are a problem, they should implement No-Refusal Weekends, like Texas and other states do: https://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/planners/NoRefusalWeekend/index.htm

All holidays where drinking is big (Fourth of July, Halloween, NYE, etc) should be no-refusal weekends.

But then again, in other states, cops don't unnecessarily harass citizens trying to catch them with the force of institutional power like MA, because they have nothing better to do except steal pension money

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GoblinBags t1_j37hc4b wrote

Are people who have a problem with the police saying they don't want any police at all? Are people who think police are too often violent trying to say that cops should never, ever use force?

Disliking the methodology of catching more OUI drivers isn't the same as being pro driving under the influence.

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GoblinBags t1_j37i7w9 wrote

A simple Google search gave me this as the top answer to whether or not a DUI checkpoint is legal in MA: https://www.massdefense.com/what-are-your-rights-at-a-dui-checkpoint/#:~:text=Like%20it%20or%20not%2C%20sobriety,as%20well%20as%20interview%20you.

It's legal. People might not like it and I'd argue it's a chance for cops to be unnecessary dickheads, but it's 100% legal and it's asinine to pretend it isn't. I can't believe you demanded a source for something so inherently easy to look up and then call folks a bootlicker for being incredulous that you think such a common practice is illegal.

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HighVulgarian t1_j37k9mh wrote

“Our society”

Holy shit, I’ve only heard racists/bigots use that phrase in that context. It’s messed up that you would so readily go there. I’m blocking you for that reason, you don’t deserve to be heard.

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spitfish t1_j37plfc wrote

It's more commentary that we need to improve our public transportation. Everything is centered around using a vehicle to travel long distances for work, food, & entertainment.

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Loon013 t1_j38a6q1 wrote

How about taking away one's right to drink instead of one's right to drive? The right to drink is almost never questioned. How many lives could be changed by prohibiting alcohol consumption for just 30 days.

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cljamm913 t1_j38n7jn wrote

I find it insane that they even announce these things. Where I grew up, you never knew, and we had at least 3 a month in our small town alone. I remember going through one in Watertown a few years ago and you could see what was happening a 2 miles away and could easily avoid it if you wanted. In NY, there was no indication, sometimes just one squad car on a side street…busted. Sure it’s annoying if you like to go out but, it’s easier now than ever to get home safely.

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Old-Spend-8218 t1_j3zgl02 wrote

What’s the status on that shit bag Dana from Holden the Mass state police Union President who was embezzling money and strong arming his own brothers. The Mass state police leadership is an absolute disaster.

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