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bartnd t1_ja8aul6 wrote

In order to be Latino/Latina you need to know how to speak Spanish; good to know!

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outb0undflight t1_ja8du6o wrote

>She was raised by a white family after being adopted, but she also has white parents.

My brother in Christ you can be both white and Latinx.

>I'm not going to link to the site, because the site sucks and promotes all kinds of conspiracy theories

Probably should have been a red flag, but okay.

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MattOLOLOL t1_ja8h0mf wrote

"I wouldn't care, or, personally, I don't care,"

Seems like you definitely do

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New-Vegetable-1274 t1_ja8huzj wrote

I get it that it makes sense that a person's race or ethnic identity is important when working exclusively with people of the same race or ethnicity. When they are in a position that deals with multiple groups shouldn't the person's qualifications be the only focus? You say this was a selling point, to who?

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OrphanKripler t1_ja8kfhv wrote

People will say anything to get a bigger paycheck. As long as she does her job attentively and for the best interests of the children without mixing her personal agendas and beliefs into public education then she could be blue, green or purple for all I care

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Trying-my-best1989 t1_ja8kx60 wrote

Lol, I don’t need a blog to tell me she is not a real Latina. No Latina/o would NOT call themselves Latinx. This is coming from a Latina ! This term is 100% an invention from Americans and no one in Latin America uses this, I just wish you guys stopped trying to shove that down our throats. Edit: to add the NOT, it was missing

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YoooJoee t1_ja8msrk wrote

It’s 2023, she identified as a person of color

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xenolingual t1_ja8nvuq wrote

Replying to Trying-my-best1989 (#2,063,295)

And as the Latin[insert preferred suffix, or none at all]-identifying people I know who do use "Latinx", including those born in Latin America and relocated to the US, also exist. Your experiences and preferences are as valid as their experiences and preferences are valid. There's no one Latin[insert preferred suffix, or none at all] opinion or identity.

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outb0undflight t1_ja8o7w4 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,063,962)

> But she says "Anglo," so it's pretty clear they weren't Latinx.

Which if true completely transforms what you're saying and is a valid point but it's literally nowhere in your original post. You can't not include relevant details and then be shocked when people call you out because your post makes it look like you think being simultaneously white and Latino is impossible.

But it isn't true, she doesn't say her birth parents are 'Anglo,' she says her adopted family was. She identifies them as 'Anglo' when the question's first asked at around 9:50 and then again when she details the ethnicity of her birth parents she says she was 'raised by an Anglo family.'

Never does she refer to her birth parents as Anglo. She says at one point that her mother is part English, but that's about it.

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OrphanKripler t1_ja8oskt wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,064,060)

Yeah deceit is a problem and a red flag that she can be bribed or lie about other things too. Which like I said anyone especially people in high positions will say anything to get a higher paycheck or look good at work.

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legalpretzel t1_ja8sn29 wrote

When did she ever profess herself to be Latinx? I looked back through the articles published when the school committee was hiring and all that was ever said was that she was bilingual.

A group of parents met with her in the fall. I was there and she was quite clear that her husband was Latino and she spoke Spanish. There was never an ounce of confusion or any misleading statements that would leave one to believe anything other than what she said.

She received an award in CA for her work advocating for Latinx students, which makes sense since her district there is almost entirely Latinx. If she was a member of CALSA (CA Latino superintendents and admin) then one would think that she met the criteria for membership.

FWIW, as a parent, I have a vested interest in who fills the role. I liked her, I liked what she has to say. She spent a LOT of time in her first 6 months listening to parents, teachers, and students. I’m eager to see if she can put into place her plans and effect positive change and I hope she succeeds.

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outb0undflight t1_ja8vq8g wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,064,456)

No worries. So while we're on the topic of leaving out relevant information, there a reason you also left out that in the video you linked she explicitly says her father's Columbian at 11:35? Seems like that's pretty relevant.

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D_is_for_Doomsayer t1_ja909zm wrote

I don't police other people's identities. Not my place to tell anyone else that they're one ethnicity or another. Not my place to question their cultural and ethnic identity. Unless you're a latin person expressing concern about someone appropriating or benefiting from a false identity, it's not really your place either.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja90luk wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,065,692)

Your post giving air to white supremacist groups doesn't exactly make you come up roses.

Oh and is there a reason you also left out that in the video you linked, she explicitly says her father's Columbian at 11:35? Seems like that's pretty relevant.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja91hng wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,064,018)

So is there a reason you also left out that in the video you linked she explicitly says her father's Columbian at 11:35? Seems like that's pretty relevant. Or maybe that doesn't jive well with your support of some white supremacist group's talking point du jour. I don't think you care about honesty.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja921xs wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,064,525)

Bro...is there a reason you also left out that in the video you linked she explicitly says her father's Columbian at 11:35? Seems like that's pretty relevant. Do you also realize that Latino people can also be white? Or are they just not "white" enough for you?

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Ovaltene17 t1_ja93ehl wrote

This is woke run amok. Apparently folks just assumed she was Latino, including the NAACP, and they just ran with it. They profiled her based on looks and name.

Just the other day, noted Black Panther Angela Davis discovered her ancestors came over on the Mayflower. So looks and skin color means nothing.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja93hqf wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,129)

>I guess you could claim Latinx based on that...?

Yes. And you know the answer is yes. Stop carrying water for white supremacist groups.

Since you claim you're Jewish, I think we all should call into question the validity of your heritage, too. Just so it's fair.

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Trying-my-best1989 t1_ja93ven wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,265)

Latino or Latina. If you want to differentiate you can write latina/o. In Portuguese and Spanish the neutral form is with O in the end, a group of 3 men and 5 women from latin America is a latino group. It’s the ethnology of the language

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja9414b wrote

Replying to Trying-my-best1989 (#2,063,295)

Her father is part Columbian. On the video OP posted at 11:35. People can refer to their heritage in their own ways, like using Latino or Latinx to describe themselves. But to make a finer point, nowhere has she referred to herself as latinx... people were using that term for her. That's an important distinction.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja94lnh wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,422)

>having a father who's part Colombian, with a bunch of other stuff mixed in, isn't really a strong case for being Latin.

It actually is. But it isn't for people who are leaning racist.

I guess now we collectively should all call out your supposed Jewish heritage because maybe you're not pure enough as a Jew to be able to call yourself Jewish.

See how your argument that she isn't "pure enough of a South American heritage be considered Latino" is fucking terrible and racist AF?

Edit: this guy is going around dirty deleting, but here's a gem

>Racists came up with the "one drop" rule. Doing the opposite of the one-drop rule is also racist?

This guy has decided he is very not racist because he is going beyond that one-drop-rule and wanting self identifed latinos to be more "full blooded"...and decided he's to become the artbuter of latino heritage by having a nebulous purity test for purported latinos. Maybe in his opinion you can't be a "real" Latino unless one of your parents are "full blooded" (whatever that means to him) Latino. Who knows! He (a Jewish white man) hasn't yet drawn up his purity map for what constitutes a "true" Latino person yet. I guess we'll wait and see how he draws up his purity tests.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja95orm wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,338)

Oh, are you still going around trying desperately to argue that because her father is only part Columbian that she is disallowed from being considered Latino because her heritage isn't "pure" enough?

This is rich coming from another Jewish person. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja963h9 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,565)

Ahh

>having a father who's part Colombian, with a bunch of other stuff mixed in, isn't really a strong case for being Latin.

It actually is. But it isn't for people who are leaning racist.

I guess now we collectively should all call out your supposed Jewish heritage because maybe you're not pure enough as a Jew to be able to call yourself Jewish.

See how your argument that she isn't "pure enough of a South American heritage be considered Latino" is fucking terrible and racist AF?

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja97lmn wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,068,864)

I just am doing my due diligence because your post is dogwhistling racism like a tornado siren....and I was looking to see if you're a troll from r/conspiracy or a proud boy member. Instead, how interesting that you're also Jewish. But then, you decide to go off that someone isn't "pure" enough to be considered Latino when their father is part Latino. Ahh, yes, you wanting to be the artbuter of "purity." That opinion is especially fucked up given our own jewish history.

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outb0undflight t1_ja9b52j wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,070,043)

> And by the way, if someone has a father who's part Jewish: they're generally not considered Jewish. I'm sure we know that, though, don't we.

Are you...are you trying to apply matrilineal descent in Judaism to Columbians?

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja9blgi wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,070,043)

>And by the way, if someone has a father who's part Jewish: they're generally not considered Jewish.

Oh shit, so you're a racist against fellow Jews, too...thinking someone's not "Jewish enough" if their mother isn't Jewish. Genetics doesn't work that way, asshole. Quelle surprise....like that's the least surprising thing you could say, given everything else you've said about purity tests for latinos on this thread. You're like...objectively terrible.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja9cj5h wrote

Replying to outb0undflight (#2,068,479)

This crappy dude is now going off on his own Jewish purity tests... that someone isn't really Jewish if their mother wasn't Jewish. Like genetics don't work that way. Plus being Jewish is an ethnicity and doesn't necessarily mean someone practices Judaism. Like I know plenty ethnically Jewish people who are atheist, and that doesn't make their heritage any less Jewish. But apparently, this douchenozzle doesn't understand how heritage works.

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xenolingual t1_ja9dhkc wrote

Replying to CatumEntanglement (#2,067,994)

OP was going to be against her either way. This is just another method to sow discord amongst others. If it wasn't this, it was going to be, idk, reports of her not smiling to someone on a sidewalk once or whatever.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja9dj84 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,070,732)

You obviously can't be bothered to acknowledge that being Jewish is an ethnicity that doesn't have to come with religion. I know lots of people who are ethical jews but are atheist or non-practicing. That doesn't make them ANY LESS Jewish. Having a Sephardic or Ashkenazi father and non-jewish mother also doesn't make them any less ethically Jewish. Your stone aged racism of purity tests need to fuck off.... it's like you're stuck in some pre-holocaust headspace.

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CatumEntanglement t1_ja9f7c7 wrote

Replying to xenolingual (#2,071,070)

He's the typical racist who is of the weasel-ing variety....in that they spread their racism through "just asking questions" and seemingly non-crazy verbiage by passing along white supremacist talking points in gentle ways. These types won't immediately go off on saying, "X people are going to replace us!!"...instead they'll be "genteel" about sowing their racism in an effort for it to sound placible enough for getting others to support it and eventually go down the rabbit hole that will lead to a "X people are going to replace us!!" sentimentality. It's gentle radicalization. And unfortunately, it works. Which is why it's important to call out the genteel racism and sealioning.

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Trying-my-best1989 t1_jaa4fsj wrote

Replying to outb0undflight (#2,076,281)

The word was made up by English speaker to comfort their little hearts. It is not a word for native speakers. It’s the same as I start calling you Americanx because I don’t want to say americana or americano on my own language and you have to accept this term as your own although it makes no sense for you to

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xenolingual t1_jaa6pch wrote

Replying to Trying-my-best1989 (#2,078,636)

Linguists observe and describe how people use language. Different languages and dialects use words differently, especially when they cross cultures. "Latine", for example, may be used by some in the Hispanosphere in the same manner that certain Anglophones use "Latinx", and both are equally valid words which are attested through popular use.

The word "Latinx" can sound odd to you, and that's totally fine. It sounds odd to me, too -- my cohort all use "Latin" to describe the same when we speak English. The word not being a part of your or my idiolects or local dialects doesn't mean that it isn't valid to others, though.

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Trying-my-best1989 t1_jaa7cvr wrote

Replying to xenolingual (#2,079,363)

Latine also doesn’t existe. Nobody uses it. Latinx literally only exists in the United States to make sense in English for people who doesn’t know that the neutral form of latino is … latino. The O is a indication of neutrality… it’s the same as calling you Americanx to make sense in my language but doesn’t make sense for native speakers. Also if you want to be insensitive to latinos all around the world with this Latinx BS that is more than rejected in the community, than be it. Some people enjoy being laughed at

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xenolingual t1_jaab2gw wrote

Replying to Trying-my-best1989 (#2,079,569)

Language is a very personal thing, and speakers generally don't realise how little they know about language. It's not worth my time to engage further with someone who isn't open to the possibility that their understanding is narrower than they believed. I hope that you'll find the curiosity to look into things, or at least take a nice walk listening to music you enjoy to help yourself feel better. Good luck with your day.

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outb0undflight t1_jaaeoax wrote

Replying to Trying-my-best1989 (#2,078,715)

I'm not going to fucking argue with you, dude.

Yes, the term Latinx means jack shit to a lot of Spanish speakers. There's also plenty of young Spanish speakers who prefer Latinx to latino/latina. You are welcome to disagree with them, but you don't have the right to tell them it's 'not a real word.' That's not how fucking words work.

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