Mt. Tahoma. Photo taken at the Nisqually Reach Nature Center.Submitted by Brickmat t3_10odiaq in Washington
ImAnIdeaMan t1_j6ejbza wrote
Reply to comment by SpunkyRadcat in Mt. Tahoma. Photo taken at the Nisqually Reach Nature Center. by Brickmat
Honestly no one would ever even know who that man is except for the people who complain that it was named after him, so that’s some Streisand Effect for you. But, for me and surely 99.99% of other people in the region, Rainier just means a gorgeous mountain and gorgeous area with an enormous amount of fun things to do and great memories, so personally I wouldn’t want it changed just because some people want to copy Denali’s/Mt McKinley’s footsteps, which is again a completely different situation because the people in that area actually only called it Denali for more than 100 years if I remember correctly.
SpunkyRadcat t1_j6eksvm wrote
Rainier or Tahoma, means the same thing when it comes to simply describing it as a gorgeous mountain with fun things to do. Also, a lot natives still call it Tahoma.
If anything calling it Tahoma makes it more beautiful because we are acknowledging the history of the area instead of some random dude some explorer liked.
yeah_oui t1_j6eqrg7 wrote
Natives have been here for several hundred years, and they call it Tahoma. History didn't start when the white guys showed up
Walter-MarkItZero t1_j6gjw4j wrote
Some of the natives. It wasn’t unanimous yet somehow one tribe wins out over the others.
Sort of like when it was named Rainier.
yeah_oui t1_j6gkqk2 wrote
While it isn't unanimous between the tribes, it shouldnt be named after the white guy who "discovered" it.
Walter-MarkItZero t1_j6gkx6z wrote
Why not? It’s been in popular and accepted use for more than 100 years. There’s no need to change to what it was “originally” when there ISN’T a single name it was originally.
Rainier is just fine.
yeah_oui t1_j6glsus wrote
Because it wasnt discovered by him? What does popular even mean? It's the official name given by the government
Walter-MarkItZero t1_j6gly69 wrote
It’s the name everyone uses. It’s known worldwide as Mt Rainier. “Popular use” isn’t a big mystery.
There’s no need to change it except anti-White bigotry.
This is what happens when someone invades the Reddit echo chamber. You seem shocked someone would disagree with you. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who are just fucking tired with the constant effort to shit on everything.
Leave Rainier alone.
yeah_oui t1_j6gmzoj wrote
>There’s no need to change it except anti-White bigotry.
Ah, got it. I'd love to hear your take on the US military renaming bases that we're named after confederate generals.
NovaBlazer t1_j6gyo6l wrote
>History didn't start when the white guys showed up
Sure didn't. But putting names on maps did! 🤪
Walter-MarkItZero t1_j6iv1ua wrote
Fun fact: the Puyallup tribal alphabet wasn’t created until the mid 1800’s and was not finalized until around 1970.
So any spelling of “Tahoma” would, by necessity, be using a tribal written language that didn’t even exist when Rainier was named.
While we are busy bashing western civilization for every evil under the sun, let’s maybe stop and think about how useful English is.
Another fun fact: the Yakama tribe changed names a few years back. The tribe did not have a written language and there were several copies of the treaty. Some spelled it “Yakima”, some spelled it “Yakama.” For almost 100 years everyone was fine with Yakima, until the tribe decided it needed to be changed. The city basically said do whatever you want, we’re good. That’s why they are spelled differently.
oozlefinch t1_j6f9djz wrote
What did the natives before them call it?
rosesandpiglets t1_j6ekurb wrote
Lol, you don’t even know who he his yet you’re defending whitewashing native culture to honor him?
ImAnIdeaMan t1_j6eqn65 wrote
> to honor him
No, it has nothing to do with him. Again you’re the only people who bring him up.
rosesandpiglets t1_j6eqzqd wrote
Continuing to call something his name is honoring him…
Lmfao.
DerrikeCope t1_j6emr1a wrote
You are correct. No one calls it Tahoma, except Internet SJWs.
rosesandpiglets t1_j6en596 wrote
Nope, actually plenty of people call it the proper name irl. Especially younger people who look down on whitewashing cultural history.
Not everyone is cool with cultural erasure.
DerrikeCope t1_j6epp2o wrote
Born and lived 52 years in Tacoma (I'm sorry, should I say təqʷuʔməʔ). Have 2 "younger" woke kids educated by the Public Schools. Literally no one, even them, calls it Tahoma outside of you keyboard warriors.
markyymark13 t1_j6f26s2 wrote
Okay grandpa let's get you to bed
rosesandpiglets t1_j6erdkq wrote
Lol, have you ever considered that you and your children are in fact not wholly representative of the state? Or did that just never cross your mind. Your generation is plagued with racism, so guess what, they’re more than a bit biased.
Lol, instead of actually offering a coherent counterpoint to why it is not racism they blocked me. I wonder why?
tnakahara t1_j6ev8jl wrote
And you are the "representative of the State"?
Guaranteed if you go outside of the King/Pierce/Snohomish SJW dominated metroplex and you say the name "Tahoma", people are going to think "Toyota Pickup"
DerrikeCope t1_j6eul92 wrote
Oh, here comes the "racist" accusation. Typical. Good day. Blocked.
KeeganUniverse t1_j6f0o30 wrote
I’m 33; I learned the name Tahoma when I was young, and not from the internet. There are a lot of people that know its previous name.
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