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an_m_8ed t1_j3ix78c wrote

Reply to comment by wolf_spanky in If you're looking for a dog, please consider one of our long-time residents by ktcat146

I'm not denying that there are increased risks of owning a pit bull because of many factors, breed included, but increased risk does not mean causality. These lines of thinking are like saying ice cream consumption increases when Americans wear swimsuits, therefore swimsuits make you eat ice cream. No. That's not how statistics work.

Regardless, I stand by my point that someone should not be deterred from owning a pit bull because of it's breed alone. This should be assessed on an individual dog and owner basis, and all factors should be taken into account.

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arctic_olive t1_j3n4ya6 wrote

"Thats not how statistics work?" lol. I'm no stats expert, but selection bias usually refers to a situation where sampling is occurring in a study from a group/population/etc right? I think the word you might be looking for is "selective breeding?". From what I can tell, these studies evaluate ALL dog bites - nothing is being selectively sampled here.

Also, the ice cream argument doesn't make any sense in this context. There is a direct cause and effect happening here. If a dog bites someone, the dog causes the bite. You can't have dog bites without dogs. Are you saying the bites are actually due to cats or something? Sure, there are other factors such as upbringing that can affect these statistics, but that doesn't change the fact that they're statically more likely to be dangerous.

Of course the history of each dog should be considered regardless of breed, but it is reasonable to not adopt a pitbull because of these statistics.

P.S. I hope all the adorable animals from this post find loving homes :)

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wolf_spanky t1_j3j2vk2 wrote

How can you read this information I provide you and still say that someone should not be deterred from owning a dangerous animal?

You clearly can’t digest stats and you don’t even provide a good example for your counter argument. Read the statistics. It samples ALL dogs. There is no selection bias. People in swim suits eating ice cream? What in the community college are you on about? That doesn’t even work as an argument.

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>I'm not denying that there are increased risks of owning a pit bull because of many factors, breed included, but increased risk does not mean causality.
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what.

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Th3seViolentDelights t1_j3jwxxv wrote

As a pit bull owner, the day that a pit bull hater is triggered on reddit is a good day.

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wolf_spanky t1_j3jx5a2 wrote

I don’t care about what you think. There are academic articles that prove my point. You can feel however you want.

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Th3seViolentDelights t1_j3jx9bd wrote

Stay mad.

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wolf_spanky t1_j3jxt8n wrote

Stay ignorant and uneducated.

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Th3seViolentDelights t1_j3jy2sb wrote

I'm petting my pit bull right now, rubbing his belly about to give him treats. Then I'll walk him later, IN PUBLIC.

By the way, there are 4 million domestic pit bulls in the US. So how do you get a "majority of 4 million are killers" from that stat? Can't wait to hear it.

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wolf_spanky t1_j3jyrkk wrote

Okay? You can do whatever you want. I don’t care. Breed them, walk them, I don’t care. And now you’re putting words into my mouth. See my comment above and read the stats. Cry me a river.

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Th3seViolentDelights t1_j3kiy27 wrote

You didn't answer the question. Show me that the majority of 4 million domestic pit bulls are aggressive killers.

Go back to your pit bull hate sub where you guys celebrate dog abuse.

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wolf_spanky t1_j3kjmlu wrote

When did I say that? Are you okay? Celebrate dog abuse? Wtf are you on about? You’re unwell. Get some help.

I provided my sources. You’ve proven to be nothing but an ignorant person who talks like a child. Read my above comment and leave me alone.

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