Submitted by LoudLemming t3_zs0oby in Washington
SereneDreams03 t1_j15rnid wrote
I'm a nontheist myself, but I'm not a huge fan of the freedom from religion commercials. That guy just comes off as pretentious. Sure, I don't want religious zealots telling me what to do, but I don't want atheists telling me not to be religious. It sounds like they do some good work, but maybe they just need some better advertising.
Asturon t1_j16brmk wrote
The thing is, there is "SUPPOSED" to be a separation of church and state in the US. And when the govt imposes rules based on religious ideology, you HAVE to fight back. The abortion and the marriage equality issues recently demonstrate this clearly.
So, while they continue to put up religious idols at govt buildings, there should absolutely be opposing material available. I'm particularly a fan of the baby baphomet from the Satanic Temple.
The atheists aren't the ones imposing their views FROM the seat of government. A display does not force you to do anything
SereneDreams03 t1_j16cckj wrote
I don't disagree, and yeah, I love a lot of the stuff the satanic temple does, I'm just saying specifically I don't like the freedom from religion commercials. Like I said, they seem to do good work, it's just their marketing that rubs me the wrong way.
yisoonshin t1_j18l2l0 wrote
I haven't seen them before this but based on this one sign they come off very pretentious. I think it'd be better if they just kept it focused on logical arguments about the main issue, ie keep religion out of government. Instead it feels like they're "proselytizing" atheism, if you know what I mean. And at a time when people just want to celebrate, take a break and just have fun with family and friends.
Pwillyams1 t1_j18vtg9 wrote
How many contradictions can you fit into one post?
etcpt t1_j15ubye wrote
Yeah, they definitely come across as the more militant atheist type to me. Not so much the "I don't believe in a deity, please respect that and stop trying to convert me" type as the "there is no deity, you are stupid for believing so, I am suing you because you decorated your office in accordance with your faith" type. Ironically, atheists who embody many of the traits that turn people off to blowhard theists. Which is too bad, because there are definitely important issues that they try to address, but their heavy-handed approach makes it easier to dismiss them as irrational and intolerant.
earthcaretaker315 t1_j15yvz6 wrote
Where do you live (state). I never seen those.
SereneDreams03 t1_j1612bm wrote
Vancouver WA. I've seen the commercials played in the Seattle area as well, though.
washdot t1_j17jrwc wrote
Are you talking about Ron Regan Junior’s commercial?
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