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Own-Fox9066 t1_iw0km0l wrote

As someone who spends a lot of time outdoors, I don’t know how I feel about this

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juiceboxzero t1_iw0llt0 wrote

Isn't part of the point of being outdoors that you're out in nature? Aren't grizzly bears part of that nature?

If we try to domesticate the wild, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?

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iamlucky13 t1_iw0uetz wrote

Blizzards are part of nature, too, but you don't want to encounter those, either. We don't have control over blizzards, though.

Somewhere in between when you spot the bear and when the bear rips your jaw from your skull, because that's a grizzly's instinctive fighting technique, is where nature probably stops being pleasant. I don't know the exact line, but it's definitely before it switches to tearing open your abdomen to enjoy your liver.

I don't have an absolute opinion on whether grizzlies should be reintroduced to the north Cascades, but I do have a very strong opinion that if we do so, there had better be an overwhelmingly compelling reason to accept the increased risks of having a far more aggressive species of bear in an area where human activity has increased by leaps and bounds over the last century.

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juiceboxzero t1_iw0vaai wrote

> Blizzards are part of nature, too, but you don't want to encounter those, either. We don't have control over blizzards, though.

What do you do if you don't want to hike in a blizzard? You don't got hiking when blizzards are likely. Likewise, if you don't want to be attacked by a grizzly, either feel free to not hike in grizzly county, or come prepared to defend yourself.

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iamlucky13 t1_iw0wrvy wrote

> Likewise, if you don't want to be attacked by a grizzly, either feel free to not hike in grizzly county

Yes, that's my primary plan. But apparently your plan is to make that more difficult for me by promoting their reintroduction to the places I normally hike.

If you want to convince me it's a good idea, you need a better argument than sentimentality.

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[deleted] t1_iw0n1g7 wrote

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juiceboxzero t1_iw0n9lf wrote

They didn't leave. They were forced out.

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CnD123 t1_iw0la4r wrote

You feel the same way I do. This is a dumb idea that will lead to dead people, dead bears, and has 0 benefit except for the funding to the researchers

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