Submitted by dry-jin t3_11fq0z4 in Washington
I went slow, signaled well in advance and took a right without stopping as there was no onward traffic. The signal did not have any signs such as "No turn on red". Should I file for a mitigation hearing or a contested hearing?
You should pay the fine and follow the fucking rules
You ran the red light. You can always contest and hope the officer is a no show
Yes, the law is to come to a complete stop, then execute the turn when it's safe.
A mitigation hearing is a bad idea - I don't think they are allowed to dismiss it during a mitigation hearing, only reduce the fine.
If you want to dispute it to get it dismissed, then you want a contested hearing. Honestly it may be easier to just pay the fine.
If it's a moving violation you may be able to request a deferral depending on the city. You still pay a fine, but it keeps it off your record (and thus out of view of insurance).
My sister had this happen. She took it to court but ended up having to pay the whole fine anyway.
You broke the law, you got a citation. Pay the fine and move on.
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Did you actually get pulled over or was it a photo
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Turning right on red is same as turning right at a stop sign. You didn't stop so you got ticketed. If you thought it was a yield situation that's a blinking yellow light, where if there's no traffic you don't need to stop.
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Yes, because she and OP broke the law…
We all break some rules all the time. And most of the time we don't get caught. But sometimes we do.
This time you did. And it never feels good, but it is just.
When this happens, we just pay the price and move on. That's my $0.02, at least.
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So you broke the law and got caught...
If you're not a habitual traffic offender (be honest with yourself) and you're not going to be caught doing something worse in the foreseeable future Washington State allows you to pay a fee to defer a citation once every seven years.
That no turn on red law hasn't taken effect yet. You need to stop before the line count to 3 one thousands of a second. Move forward stop again count 3 one thousands of a second, check then go. And you're fine. If you do one stop you are legally liable for a ticket.
You did a yield check? That's illegal. The cameras can check to see if your speed is at 0 mph and if it isn't they can ticket you.
If wa state ever does pass the law no right turn on red. The city will have to effectively enforce it. Considering how bad they are at enforcing normal driving rules I highly, highly doubt they'd ever get close to enforcing this one.
Even when intersections have no turn on red signs for driver safety people still are dumb affes and run them.
Happened to me too, you need to come to a full stop not a rolling stop. I paid the fine, learned my lesson
XNC_Oli t1_jaklpbj wrote
Doesn’t the law require a stop before you turn on red?