BandOfButtons t1_j1euahe wrote on December 23, 2022 at 8:04 PM

Reply to comment by WillUmbrellaYou in Afghan Men Stand in Support of Women After Taliban College Ban by BlitzOrion

At the risk of coming off like an Edgy Atheist Redditor (sorry in advance) - how do you conflate the idea that Islam is about being kind, good and supportive of co-existence, when Islam is the world religion that is most against co-existence? Ex-Muslims, religious minorities, the LGBT+ community, even just women co-existing with men.

In one of your other comments you said that you're practicing your religion more seriously since you moved to a western country. I'm happy that you're able to do so. But I doubt any same-sex couple (among many, many other marginalised groups) moving to a Muslim country would be able to say the equivalent. So many people have to flee Muslim countries in order to live their lives safely and without persecution, but I've never heard of anyone fleeing to one from the west for the same reason.

WillUmbrellaYou t1_j1fbo1b wrote on December 23, 2022 at 10:10 PM

There are a lot of muslim countries where societies of different faiths co-exist and those people are usually just fine with how things are. Im not saying these societies or countries are perfect. Im sure people there go through bouts of shitty things. Women as well have to deal with things men dont have to deal with. So there are issues that you bring up. Im not denyng that. However, its definitely not to the point where co-existing is not possible or favorable. People of different minorities and their quality of life depends on the ideologies of the leaders. Thats why Im not with religion being the basis for government. Either way the arabic world is westernizing at a very fast pace coupled with social media and with that the slow erosion of the issues you mentioned. When it comes to the LGBT+ matter its different from faith and honestly I dont know a right answer. Of course the way theyre treated is horrible. Its not easy for someone in my position to discuss this specific thing cuz I dont really have it all figured out. Theres the side of my faith that expresses explicitly the catastrophe that fell upon followers of this path. I don’t know what its like to be in their shoes so i wouldnt even call it following a path. All I know is that the modern solution is not simple or known but that some tolerance should be given.