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hackulator t1_j12r13k wrote

Any policy that are changing what end user consumers can do are basically meaningless.

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SuaveMofo t1_j131vbv wrote

You can't want to have a cleaner, healthier environment and still get plastic straws and containers. There are and will be sacrifices we are all going to have to make.

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OneMisterSir101 t1_j13mwor wrote

Completely missing their point. They're not saying we don't have to make sacrifices. They're saying that policy that targets end-users only addresses a very small part of the problem while at the same time making the most apparently visible change.

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SilverNicktail t1_j151f2d wrote

The ban coming into effect today is for producers and importers, not end users.

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AngryKrumpet t1_j18rhvm wrote

People never understand how banning single-use plastics is worth it...they never seem to consider the emissions produced solely from producing these products.

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SilverNicktail t1_j12wxdb wrote

Utter nonsense. By that logic an ICE car sales ban would do nothing to reduce emissions. Never mind that the end-user purchase ban comes in next year, and you've completely skipped over the ban being introduced today, which is a domestic manufacturing and import ban. You know, one aimed at the companies producing the products? "Placing the onus on corporations?"

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hackulator t1_j14titc wrote

And see here is the thing: that ban WOULD do almost nothing, because there are single container ships which produce more emissions than an entire country worth of cars.

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SilverNicktail t1_j150je0 wrote

[Citation needed]

Here's one for you: 75% of transport emissions come from road vehicles:

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport

I know it's illegal to admit you're wrong on the Internet, but maybe if someone points out you're wrong, just pulling shit out of your ass isn't the best way to take in that information.

Not that any of this changes the point that you skipped over this ban being aimed at corporations first and misrepresented it as something that exclusively targets consumers. That was the actual point being addressed.

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