Cole-train99 t1_j079oeh wrote on December 14, 2022 at 4:11 PM

Reply to comment by Dinklemeier in Oregon governor commutes all 17 of state's death sentences by Slavic_Dusa

Agreed, some people don’t deserve the time they get to live after atrocious crimes.

I’m a neutral voter, I absolutely hate politics and talking about them. But people like Cruz, Ramos, and the others do not deserve to live comfortably in a cell for the rest of their lives.

Maybe I sound very bad saying that but I’ll never like the fact that these people get to live while little kids, parents, officers and more die because of their actions.

And before people say gun control, sure maybe harder gun control will help, but people will always find a way to get a gun. Illegal guns are every where now.

Releasing people like Victor Bout assures that.

Edit: before I get downvoted to hell, I’m not saying everyone deserves the death penalty. But people like Cruz and Ramos, who are without a single doubt 110% guilty do not deserve to be comfortable. I know people are wrongly convicted and sentenced but these guys, and many more have enough evidence.

KnownUniverse t1_j09f73e wrote on December 15, 2022 at 12:39 AM

I feel like you want vengeance instead of justice. There's a difference. It's cheaper to let these monsters live in a cage until death. They won't be able to cause further harm, just as if they were already dead.

GoPointers t1_j09oc0p wrote on December 15, 2022 at 1:48 AM

Is it vengeance? I feel that if somebody decides they have the right to take another life, then by that flawed belief system they're acknowledging that someone has the right to take their life. So in the really bad cases, where the convicted murderer was convicted with 100% certainty, I'm not against it. However I don't like how there is no consistency to how it's applied, for example Texas. Looking from a broader perspective the US is one of the few remaining western countries that still hasn't banned the death penalty, so it probably should just be banned federally, though the conservatives won't let that happen.