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PanzerSucette t1_iuw799y wrote

While loving the initiative, its gonna be the same problem as when they offered the 9euros thing in august : Make more ppl use overcrowded services. During the last 9euros offer, you jsut couldnt have a place/seat. The problem is not really the price but the offer. Not enough trains/bus/wagons etc

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Shiro1_Ookami t1_iuwd0o5 wrote

49€ with a monthly subscription will lower demand significantly. This ticket will mostly be used by people who already own a subscription.

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Reddit-runner t1_iuwsrnj wrote

>This ticket will mostly be used by people who already own a subscription.

Maybe by a majority, but not by an overwhelming majority.

If you want to stay in an other city for even just a weekend this ticket already makes sense.

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dc456 t1_iuxk9xp wrote

I think it depends what they mean by ‘medium distance’. €49 for just travelling around a local city for a couple of days is a lot.

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dc456 t1_iuxyskl wrote

Nice, so the same as the €9 previous one. It wasn’t clear in the article if it had the same conditions. Thanks for explaining.

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dc456 t1_iuy0awo wrote

Yeah, it looks to be a good deal, but I think it’s not an immediate saving on every local or regional weekend away. In some cases it’ll need more than one trip a month to make financial sense.

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graymatterqueen t1_iuyaly3 wrote

For anyone living in a major city in Germany the ticket is a no-brainer. A 30-day-ticket for my (500k) major city e.g. costs 82€(!!!) and only covers the city itself. Not even going to the neighboring town. Betcha I'm going to order the 49€ across Germany one. And many others will too.

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dc456 t1_iuybivw wrote

Yeah, that’s a use case I can definitely see.

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Reddit-runner t1_iuxltii wrote

>€49 for just travelling around a local city for a couple of days is a lot.

Well buddy, how much do you think it costs today?

Including getting from your home to this city and then back home again?

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dc456 t1_iuxy52n wrote

> Well buddy, how much do you think it costs today?

Well it depends on how local, doesn’t it? Like a trip from Bad Nauheim to Frankfurt followed by six short singles over the weekend is around €28.

That’s my point about what ‘medium’ means - if you can travel a few hours to a city for €49, then it makes more sense.

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Reddit-runner t1_iuy6qnx wrote

Try going from Öhringen to Stuttgart. About 70km. That's 12.80€ one way. And then you still have to buy your day ticket for Stuttgart. That's an other 6-13€ a day depending on how many zones you plan to travel in.

How do you determine the number of zones? Well, good luck trying to find that out.

And if you don't live in walking distance from Öhringen train station? That's up to an other 7€ per trip.

So for a 3 day trip to Stuttgart you are already looking at well over 50€ even if you stay within the more inner zones of Stuttgart.

But maybe you could combine some of those tickets so it gets cheaper? Well, again good luck finding out how. Report back please.

As you see even ignoring your other monthly costs within the area of Öhringen the 49€ is well justified.

Not only is it likely to be cheaper than a weekend trip currently, it also completely eliminates the ticket confusion. It just makes travelling easier. More attractive.

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willie_caine t1_iuwngt9 wrote

The government and DB have committed to spending billions in improving infrastructure, so it seems they had the same thought as you :)

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Paweron t1_iuxmbfc wrote

That will take years or even decades to be carried put though.

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willie_caine t1_iv085uj wrote

€13bn this year, and over €60bn over the next 10 years, apparently.

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Ko-jo-te t1_iuxvq1u wrote

That's a short-term problem pressing for a solution. If it hapoens, the government will soebd the dough for better infrastructure, because it makes sense in many ways. It's much easier to come up with the money when trains are overcrowded, even though it would've been smarter to make the services better and more attractive to attract more users naturally. Humans are weird like that.

Also, I love that it happens. Public transport almost never vreaks even directly, money-wise. The profit lies in better connectivity for many people. Good for the economy and society. A long term strategy.

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Double_Ad_7461 t1_iuyrgw6 wrote

increasing demand for public transport is a good thing. then when new lines are developed you dont have to worry about usage.

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