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DamnBored1 t1_iurv0vp wrote

Does Taiwan not have Panda experts? Or did China borrow a page from Apple's book and refuse "Right to Repair"?

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bohemiantranslation t1_ius0qhy wrote

All Pandas are more or less "owned" by China. They "rent" them out (for the entire lives) to other countries. Im not positive but I think they also send people out to both check up on the pandas and take them back if that country has displeased the CCP. They basically use them as political bargaining chips from what i can remember.

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DamnBored1 t1_ius8359 wrote

And this kind of diplomacy works? Are countries really like "let's go out of our way to keep ccp happy even if it does not align with our larger stance, else we'll lose out on a few zoo animals"

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Vampman500 t1_iusvako wrote

Yes it does, but not because of the threat they’ll be taken away.

It’s a form of soft power. An effort to make citizens of another nation to like your nation more, and as a result encourage their government to be friendlier. America makes movies which depict America as the place to be. England exports Doctor Who. France capitalized on the love of the Eiffel Tower. China? They export pandas and martial arts.

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bohemiantranslation t1_iusjlz4 wrote

Im really not sure how effective it is. Im sure it helps smooth over small things but I doubt anything truly serious would ve fixed by China dangling the pandas over western countries. Though a zoo that has a panda is increasingly rare which in turn would be a tourism draw so I doubt any state/country that has one would want to loose it. Im often extremely surprised at how many politicians etc that are willing to roll over and do China's bidding.

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Sinful_Hollowz t1_iut1e5g wrote

San Diego Zoo used to have one but it was sent back to China.. now the zoo isn’t as popular

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JohnOliverismysexgod t1_iut7k8p wrote

Do you know of any other reason why China would acknowledge the existence of Taiwan?

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Bionic_Ferir t1_iuswzwb wrote

I was thinking about it and decided to look it up there is only one place in the entire southern hemisphere to have pandas and bizzarly it's adalaide zoo

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No_Caregiver_5740 t1_iurxcbp wrote

Its hard to have panda experts when you have no pandas lololol

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DamnBored1 t1_iushed8 wrote

I wish that applied for all animals. I have seen hundreds of tigers and elephants in American zoos. Never heard of the US inviting experts from Asia to visit them because they don't have experts for animals that aren't found in the wild in the US. Maybe they do and I have some knowledge gap in which case please correct me.

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No_Caregiver_5740 t1_iutccfg wrote

The difference is that the US can get people into these countries but Mao era china? not many animal researchers that really could

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a_melanoleuca_doc t1_iutfnx4 wrote

Just like any other kind of medicine or pretty much any field, there are specialists and people who are just better or more experienced than others. Specialists from Europe and the US go to China to help panda holding facilities all the time and vice versa. And with the extreme scrutiny on pandas they have to do everything possible if an animal is sick.

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deadlywaffle139 t1_iutujfp wrote

I think the zoo vet took a look and couldn’t figured it out. Panda was getting worse. No one really has panda experts outside of China because China is the only one that can study them in details. So they had to fly in an expert.

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