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Hopeful_1768 t1_itiutqv wrote

all of Norway = 1/4th of Beijing = 1/5th of Shanghai

(in population. in energy consumption possibly less)

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jeffroddit t1_itjh0kt wrote

I checked wikipedia and there 19 cities in China bigger than Norway. Those 19 cities are almost 40 Norways between them. And then the rest of China is still about 240 Norways.

Big China is Big

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earthlingkevin t1_itlav83 wrote

Norway is also a lot smaller than people imagine. It usually gets stretched when maps get flaggened

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ChiragK2020 t1_itkl3c2 wrote

Thats not true?

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jeffroddit t1_itnrns0 wrote

Le sigh

Norway Population 2022: 5,518,814 (Source)

Chinese Cities by Population (Source)

Largest Cities in Mainland China by Population of Urban Area
Rank City Province Latest Estimate[3]
1 Shanghai — 24,870,895
2 Beijing⍟# — 21,167,303
3 Guangzhou#* Guangdong 18,810,600
4 Shenzhen#~ Guangdong 17,633,800
5 Chengdu#* Sichuan 15,025,554
6 Tianjin#† — 13,929,152
7 Chongqing#* — 12,313,714
8 Nanjing* Jiangsu 9,320,689
9 Wuhan#* Hubei 8,546,775
10 Xi'an#* Shaanxi 8,438,050
11 Hangzhou* Zhejiang 7,969,372
12 Shenyang* Liaoning 7,469,474
13 Dongguan Guangdong 7,489,198
14 Foshan Guangdong 7,462,797
15 Harbin* Heilongjiang 6,612,795
16 Dalian~ Liaoning 5,871,474
17 Qingdao~ Shandong 5,818,255
18 Zhengzhou#* Henan 5,621,593
19 Jinan* Shandong 5,606,374

"19 cities in China bigger than Norway"

Total in these 19 cities = 209,977,864

209,977,864 (cities) / 5,518,814 (Norway) = 38.04 Norways AKA "Those 19 cities are almost 40 Norways between them" 38 is almost 40, no?

China 2022 Population = 1,452,250,110 (Source)

1,452,250,110 (China) - 209,977,864 (19 cities) = 1,242,272,246 (rest of China)

1,242,272,246 (rest of China) / 5,518,814 (Norway) = 225 Norways

"And then the rest of China is still about 240 Norways"

Dang. Got me. Doing multiple steps of 10 digit math in my head I was off by 6%. 6% is not within the universal standard for the definition of "about". Everyone knows the internationally accepted maximum margin of error is 5% when used on the internet to support the statement "Big China is big". I will now hide in shame and never do hand wavy math on the internet again for using the Imperial unit of 6% "about" rather than the ISI sanctioned metric 5% "about".

The only thing I can say in my defense is that Big China is so fucking big it's easy to lose an extra 15 Norways and not even notice it.

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