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rpsls t1_ir652p5 wrote

Reply to comment by Windowplanecrash in Great news for everyone by bk27465

Less waste?? You’re about to force a large segment of the population to throw away a huge quantity of plastic and metal for no good reason. This will cause tons of waste, not prevent waste.

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Windowplanecrash t1_ir65orv wrote

People replace dud cables regularly. They break, that's a fact. Instead of having to replace 3 different cables every 3-5 years, now you only have to replace one.

Come on this is simple af, next pointless argument please

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rpsls t1_ir66acd wrote

You replace a cable that breaks. That’s a 1-1 replacement. A different/same connector at the end doesn’t save anything.

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holymurphy t1_ir6mphs wrote

It really does, at least for me.

If my computer charger breaks, I wouldn't need to replace it 1:1. I could use the charger from my phone, my Nintendo Switch, my headset, my "name any other device".

So no, I wouldn't need to go and buy a new cable everytime something breaks. I can easily live with 2 working cables.

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Ticeben2 t1_ir690c1 wrote

And you replace a charger as a whole for every other generation of device. What happened to usb after usb c? Or the one that came before that, or the one that came before that.

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AsteriusNeon t1_ir7glff wrote

If I have 4 devices and they all come with a different cable then when one breaks I have to buy a new cable.

If I have 4 devices and they all come with a USB-C cable then when one breaks I still have 3 working cables.

Honestly, I don't know what nonsense you're spouting.

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jacofstl t1_ir667gy wrote

Maybe initially. But the charges they have will still work for the devices they have. It's a huge help for many Apple products where the charger will change from year to year. Making it universal will prevent consumers from needing to buy multiple charges for multiple devices, or change it yearly. In the longterm this will make a massive postive difference in terms E-waste and for a what a consumer will need to spend.

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JUYED-AWK-YACC t1_ir66s3l wrote

The charger has never changed. Lightning connectors have been standard on iPhones longer than usb-c on Android.

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Crizznik t1_ir6tq1k wrote

That's a strong statement. You're correct that the lightning connectors have been standard for Apple for longer than the USB-C, but they used to be a different connector. And USB-C works for dozens of different styles and brands of electronics. The lightning connector only works for Apple products. That is anti-consumer. Largely Apple's fault, but still anti-consumer.

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JUYED-AWK-YACC t1_ir6wypq wrote

They have changed once.

Also, usb-c for everything is a terrible idea. Nobody keeps track of the different types.

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Crizznik t1_ir6zplx wrote

To be fair, for smart phones, USB has only changed once too. From USB-micro to USB-C. For flip phones it was USB-mini, but that was also before smart phones, before Apple phones at all, were a thing.

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JUYED-AWK-YACC t1_ir70ggh wrote

You're just an argument clinic. You haven't explained how the chargers change "from year to year" as you originally asserted, and I refuted that. I'm bored with this. Still looking forward to ecologically throwing out all my cords in a few years.

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Crizznik t1_ir717hw wrote

I never said they change from year to year. I think you have me confused with someone else. The only point I was making is that you were being disingenuous when you claimed that Apple have it any better as far as changing connectors are concerned from other devices. Android and Apple phones have changed chargers the same amount of times as each other, and forcing them all to one connector would be good for everyone. And hey, if you think forcing everywhere to use lightning would be preferable to forcing everywhere to use USB-C, that's fine. I disagree, but that's your opinion. It's objective fact that it would be better for consumer if all cell phones used the same power cable. All tablets too.

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Crizznik t1_ir6td1p wrote

It will reduce future waste by a huge amount, and the waste you're talking about is also made worse by the differences. I have an Android for my personal phone and an iPhone for my work phone. It requires I have two separate charging cables. If they weren't different, I'd only need one, and I'd need to replace half as many when they inevitably fail.

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