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Skeptical_Vegan t1_ir4bwod wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Slovenia legalises same-sex marriage and adoption by citytiger

This isn't 1950 or the dark ages. The reality is that people were sometimes gay. Science has made this irrefutable. How is their ability to love any different? And what do you mean by "sanctity of marriage"?

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ChristianSword t1_ir570hk wrote

Marriage is a God given institution, for man and a woman. Why isn’t he allowed to have a Christian viewpoint?

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Animeking1108 t1_ir5bdcx wrote

Marriage existed before religion.

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ChristianSword t1_ir5bmge wrote

Marriage was created by God, for man and a woman. That is a basic fact

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southern_breeze t1_ir5btz7 wrote

I don't think you know what a 'fact' is.

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ChristianSword t1_ir5c114 wrote

Fact is something that is true

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southern_breeze t1_ir5dgls wrote

Can you prove this 'fact' that marriage was created by God? :) How do I know that it's actually true? Shouldn't be hard since this is 'basic fact'.

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Animeking1108 t1_ir5nckn wrote

Adam and Eve were twins (she was made from a sample of his DNA, making her a twin or a clone), and their children had to fuck to populate the world. Maybe we shouldn't follow everything the Bible says.

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Skeptical_Vegan t1_irfcvgd wrote

I don't understand what you mean by God? The Romans had marriage. The Norwegians have marriage The Muslims, the Hindus. The Asians all have marriage and none of them are under the sanctity of some deity. I don't believe in your deity. It's stupid that you're going to pass a law that makes me follow your religion. You don't have any evidence to support the existence of said deity and yet you're still choosing it over living breathing individuals that are born gay. How ridiculous is this? You not see the issue?

Just because you say it's god-given doesn't mean that it is. Until you can give me direct evidence of your God and then after approving that your God exists, you must then also prove to me that a. He doesn't make a gay people born that way and b you must then also prove that he gives a f*** about who we marry. But none of this can be proven. So it's f****** stupid to start passing laws on this stuff when we have no reason to believe any of it. Especially when it horribly f**** over a fairly numerous minority.

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[deleted] t1_ir4hups wrote

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Skeptical_Vegan t1_ir4ikj2 wrote

And why?

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[deleted] t1_ir4pcwm wrote

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AGVann t1_ir4qm25 wrote

You know what else was 'tradition'? The mass murder of Jews in pogroms. Intense xenophobia and racism. Religious wars and genocide. Child abuse and slavery. Women being treated as property. Rape being a normal part of life.

The barbaric, illogical, and uncivilised hatreds of the past aren't suddenly sacred and inviolable just because you wrapped a pretty name around it.

Marriage as a tradition is not under threat by LGBT rights. It's strengthened by being an act of love, not by being an act of persecution. What is threatened by LGBT rights are the pointless hatreds that have destroyed millions of lives over the centuries, and that 'tradition' of fear and hate is not something we need to carry around.

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