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CharlieD00M t1_jb0tp30 wrote

30% ain’t enough

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robertinventor t1_jb0z8kf wrote

It is enough. Even the most activist organizations like the WWF, GreenPeace and the IUCN are hailing it as a historic agreement - and they helped broker the deal. They say they were listened to in the treaty text.

30% is enough but it has to be the right 30%.

This is the IUCN on how it has to be the right 30%.

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Some more statements to add to my previous comment

WORLD WILDLIFE FUND STRONGLY WELCOMES THE NEW TEXT

> NEW YORK CITY, United States (4 March 2023) – WWF strongly welcomes the
agreement of the text for a new global legally binding High Seas Treaty
reached by nations today in New York, creating a framework to conserve
marine life and restrain harmful activities in two-thirds of the ocean.

> “This is a landmark moment for the ocean – one that will usher in a new era of collective responsibility for our planet’s most significant global commons,” says Pepe Clarke, Global Ocean Practice Leader for WWF. “Last year, nations committed to halt and reverse nature loss by 2030. Today’s achievement is a significant step toward delivering on that promise.”

> WWF believes the Scientific and Technical Body set to be established as a result of the agreement will be instrumental in ensuring that proposals and management plans for marine protected areas are robustly assessed, and environmental impact assessment reports are received and made accessible to the global community. Alongside this, the Implementation and Compliance Committee will operationalise enhanced cooperation in a meaningful way, and a dispute resolution mechanism gives an opportunity for states to take action against breaches.

> The obligation on developed states to share knowledge and technologies, and to build capacity across countries will facilitate a more equitable participation in the conservation of the high seas, in particular for developing nations.

> “Ocean advocates worldwide can savor this moment years in the making,” says Battle. “But this is not a finish line. For the treaty’s good intentions to deliver results on the water, we’ve got to keep the pressure up. Once technicalities are worked out and the treaty is adopted, it needs to enter into force so that it can be put to work – all countries must quickly formally sign and ratify it into their own national legislation. Words matter, but our ocean needs action.”

> The high seas support crucial fisheries, provide habitats for hundreds of thousands of species and help mitigate climate impacts, with 23% of human-related carbon emissions being absorbed by the ocean over the last 10 years. The high seas and the wildlife that migrates through these waters will finally be afforded the attention they deserve, once enough countries adopt and ratify this agreement enabling the instrument to enter into force. https://wwf.panda.org/?7913966/landmark-high-seas-treaty-agreed

The moment it was agreed:

https://twitter.com/Duncan_Currie/status/1632209509354438658

> New York, 4th March 2023: Late this evening governments meeting at the United Nations in New York reached agreement on key substantive issues for a new Treaty to protect High Seas marine life.

> “Following a two week long rollercoaster ride of negotiations and super-hero efforts in the last 48 hours, governments reached agreement on key issues that will advance protection and better management of marine biodiversity in the High Seas,” said Rebecca Hubbard, Director of the High Seas Alliance.

> The High Seas, the area of ocean that lies beyond countries’ national waters, is the largest habitat on Earth and home to millions of species. With currently just over 1% of the High Seas protected, the new Treaty will provide a pathway to establish marine protected areas in these waters. It is also a key tool to help deliver the recently agreed Kunming-Montreal target of at least 30% protection of the world’s ocean by 2030 that was just agreed in December- the minimum level of protection scientists warn is necessary to ensure a healthy ocean. But time is of the essence.

> The new Treaty will bring ocean governance into the 21st century, including establishing modern requirements to assess and manage planned human activities that would affect marine life in the High Seas as well as ensuring greater transparency. This will greatly strengthen the effective area-based management of fishing, shipping and other activities that have contributed to the overall decline in ocean health.

> The issue of sufficient financing to fund the implementation of the Treaty, as well as equity issues surrounding the sharing of benefits from marine genetic resources was one of the key sticking points between North and South throughout the meeting. However, right up to the final hours of the meeting, governments were able to land an agreement that provided for equitable sharing of these benefits from the deep sea and High Seas.

> “It’s been a very long journey to get to a Treaty. We will be looking to the 52 states that make up the High Ambition Coalition to lead the charge to adopt, ratify and identify important High Seas areas to protect,” said Rebecca Hubbard. “

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZxVlUd6YpeUcyiFDEPxFr43GcqE9qPXI/view

Many endorsements here:

> Dr. Lance Morgan, President, Marine Conservation Institute: “Coming on the heels of the Global Biodiversity Framework, this historic agreement is a huge step towards ensuring marine protected areas in the High Seas and reaching 30x30.”

> Lisa Speer, Director of the International Ocean program at Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC): “This text provides the basis for protecting key biodiversity hotspots in the High Seas. We now have a pathway to achieve the goal of meaningfully protecting at least 30% of the ocean by 2030, a goal that scientists tell us is crucial to maintaining ocean health in the face of ocean warming, acidification and other impacts of climate change. Now let’s get started.”

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZxVlUd6YpeUcyiFDEPxFr43GcqE9qPXI/view

What's with all the -ve comments here today:? This is supposed to be r/upllifting not r/collapse.

I recommend checking with reliable sources before reacting instead of just going by gut feeling.

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Zeraphil t1_jb1fcqt wrote

Please, you can cite all the sources you want but the expert redditor here is saying it’s not enough, so it’s not enough.

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robertinventor t1_jbf56gq wrote

What are their credentials? Perhaps they should apply to be scientific consultant to WWF and the IUCN?

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Azure_Crystals t1_jbnjolg wrote

My apologies but I think they were sarcastic, they were agreeing with you.

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dumbidoo t1_jb291sc wrote

If 30% is literally the bare minimum required to avoid environmental collapse, it's obviously not enough. That leaves no leeway, no room for error or accidents, man-made or natural, even IF everyone actually abides by it. It's pure human hubris to also assume these calculations are 100% accurate when dealing with such complex systems or that some new factors couldn't change things. You don't park a car on the very edge of a cliff and then get to shocked that something happened to it when you could have easily parked it at a safer distance.

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