morningreis t1_jb0a842 wrote
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The US?
Remember when the UK returned Hong Kong with the agreement that it would remain autonomous? China agreed, then broke it
And I don't know how many times China has broken agreements with the Philippines over islands close to the Philippines... One instance was a mutual agreement to withdraw any forces... Then once Philippine forces were gone, China moved in and set up shop.
These people give no fucks.
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designatedcrasher t1_jb0cphp wrote
remember when the uk took hong kong as compensation for the opium wars and then funded extremists during the hand back. remember when the us took over the Phillipines and installed military bases throughout the country gave them independence and kept the military bases
morningreis t1_jb0gp2n wrote
I like how you compare events from 1842 to 2019 like it's the same governments.
I also like how there's been no mention of the US on my part, but you've tried to shoehorn them in twice in an effort to deflect.
And FYI the US has no military bases in the Philippines, they all belong to the Philippines.
And neither of these are even examples of opportunistic breaking of agreements in the style of China.
designatedcrasher t1_jb0in8t wrote
morningreis t1_jb0n5ed wrote
All of those bases belong to the Philippines. US only goes there with Philippine permission.
Do you want to deflect to the US one more time?
RedDragonRoar t1_jb0vk2r wrote
From what I understand, the Philippine government values US military involvement in the region, primarily because China is a massive problem for any country in the South China Sea.
Having a counter to your biggest geopolitical opponent on hand as a strategic partner is generally something countries like.
designatedcrasher t1_jb1e0dp wrote
it seems like the us wants china to be the big bad wolf while china hasnt invaded a country america is still ripping the middle east apart
RedDragonRoar t1_jb1hx2k wrote
China litterally invaded Vietnam after the US pulled out. Not only that, China has been acting belligerent and has claimed 90% of the South China Sea. They have also threatened to invade Taiwan.
designatedcrasher t1_jb23oup wrote
us pulled out is a cute way of saying lost the war. us has claimed the globe as theirs and regularly threatens any country if they dont tow the line
RedDragonRoar t1_jb27r5t wrote
The United States does not have active claims to the territory of another sovereign state or any claims outside of the territory it currently controls. Claiming otherwise either shows serious delusions or is intentionally misleading.
Furthermore, I did not comment on the outcome of the Vietnam War, only that after the US had left the region, regardless of why they left, that the PRC proceeded to invade Vietnam in an attempt to annex its sovereign territory.
designatedcrasher t1_jb2fej8 wrote
so your shameless about iraq afganistan cool
RedDragonRoar t1_jb2k5aa wrote
What do they have to do with anything in this context?
They were two wars of ideological struggle. One to contain what was believed to be a totalitarian dictator while the other was to contain a terrorist state. Both tried to install democratic governments in their respective regions, and only one succeeded. They were not wars of conquest, although neither were really good for the US or the invaded party, if you exclude Kuwait, as they were liberated as a result of the invasion of Iraq.
Regardless, my opinion of those wars don't change the fact that the countries in the South China Sea see the United States as a valuable strategic partner in containing Chinese aggression in the region, and vice versa.
designatedcrasher t1_jb2pivz wrote
funny how its chinese aggression in the south china sea and not the us thousands of miles away from their coast being aggressive. countries in the region rely on us money and tow the line at their masters bidding
RedDragonRoar t1_jb2rfzx wrote
Do you also think that Putin invading Ukraine isn't aggression, but the US funding them is just because of distance?
Or do you think that Finland and Sweeden joining NATO is Western aggression because they are closer to Russia than the US?
designatedcrasher t1_jb4fpz4 wrote
Ukraine which had become a us puppet filed with far right nationalists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regiment and the most corrupt country in the west, even zelensky was named in https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandora-papers/pandora-papers-reveal-offshore-holdings-of-ukrainian-president-and-his-inner-circle
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designatedcrasher t1_jb0iov8 wrote
Free Hawaii
morningreis t1_jb0nadf wrote
I heard China is claiming Hawaii for themselves
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