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krav_mark t1_jb08zvy wrote

The "by 2030" part doesn't signal to me we are thinking this is a crisis right now.

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voteforHughManatee t1_jb0sj02 wrote

That's 7 years for China to deplete the biodiversity, dredging just off of everyone's coast in "international waters" and then make the entire international community fix it "together".

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PullUpAPew t1_jb0vbbp wrote

And they don't respect UNCLOS decisions so not sure what will be different with this treaty

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wolfie379 t1_jb11ua9 wrote

What is it going to take before some country gets fed up with China and plants “IJN mines aboard sunken ships” for the dredges to find?

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Ducktect t1_jb0m8d3 wrote

And the ever present non-binding nature makes me think we're definitely doing it this time, right guys?

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vincentofearth t1_jb0y8r2 wrote

That’s unfortunate, yes, but don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good. I can only imagine how tough it was to put a deal like this together.

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Consistent_Ad_4828 t1_jb132p7 wrote

Idk if it’s even good. When I studied international environmental politics in college the consensus was the only ever success was phasing out CFCs for the ozone and that was only due to changing economic factors. The logic of capital seems to make any efforts futile.

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Random_Ad t1_jb23nyf wrote

Wdym, things don’t happen overnight. It’s takes time to assess where you have assets right now, what infrastructure are needed and time to buy up the system to actually enforce things. This is so fantasy magic land.

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Gerstlauer t1_jb5n8z7 wrote

Oh, you mean China, whose population is greater than the US and EU combined (double, in fact), and where the majority of our everyday consumer goods are manufactured is outputting more CO2 than those countries? I'm shocked. 😐

Their per capita CO2 output is less than half that of the US.

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