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[deleted] t1_jaz7tsu wrote

Reply to comment by bermudaliving in New UN brokered High Seas Treaty Places 30% of Ocean into protected areas by 2030 after decades of talks by AstroEngineer314

The ocean just isn't going to 'be extinct' in 7 years time. Calm down.

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BrightSkyFire t1_jb07u2y wrote

Correct! The ocean will not be extinct in seven years. Or fifty for that matter! The ocean is an excellent environment for biodiversity. There will always be some aspect of life inhabiting it.

However, every year, more irreversible damage is done to the ocean. The carrying capacity of the ocean has long been exceeded by humanity's consumption of seafood alone, never mind anything else that depends on it for resources. In the current century, there has been an extremely worrying downtrend in the seasonal regeneration of sea-life.

Needless to say, every year of inaction is another sprint closer to the approaching cataclysmic disaster that will be the collapse of the ocean as a food source. We need to start slowing humanity's approach down as soon as possible, and seven years is not an insignificant amount of time.

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SoulOfGuyFieri t1_jazc817 wrote

You can deny it all you want but the next mass extinction is already under way and well documented.

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[deleted] t1_jazcj25 wrote

I didn’t deny it’s happening, but the ocean isn’t going to be extinct in 7 years. It just isn’t.

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jeho22 t1_jazg6pf wrote

I think this is more of a wording issue...

The ocean and its ecosystems are being damaged horribly. The ocean also is not a species that can go extinct.

Also, since when does anybody listen to the UN? Think China's fleets are going to magically start playing nice? Are countries going to stop dumping their garbGe and sewage into their rivers?

Probably not in my lifetime

Edit: left out the word 'go'

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Anderopolis t1_jazpv9x wrote

UN frameworks are adhered to in the vast majority of cases. The Kyoto protocol f.eks. was actually overachieved by everyone that didn't leave it.

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CaptainCupcakez t1_jb09rz1 wrote

Any evidence outside of "that sounds crazy and I can't imagine it happening"?

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bermudaliving t1_jb3n80x wrote

I should calm down about majority of scientific research coming to the same conclusion?

Please remind me in 5 years time how much sea life is left in order to feed the 4 billion people who depend on it.

By 2030 the human population will grow to 8.5 billion. Where is this extra food coming from?

The lakes across the western coast of United States are on the brink of extinction. Same goes for many lakes across the planet as we speak.

I’m not sure why it’s so hard to see this isn’t a pretty picture humanity is facing.

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[deleted] t1_jb3q1fe wrote

Where did I say there wasn’t a problem? There is very definitely a problem, but it’s also useless to make completely hyperbolic and hysterical statements like “the ocean will be extinct by 2030”.

It’s utterly inaccurate, defeatist statements like that which have completely discredited the real climate change facts that scientists have been trying to warn us about for decades. Every time a blatant mis truth about the apocalypse is bandied about, it throws the veracity of everything into question. ‘if that’s so obviously wrong, what else are they lying about?’.

The article itself even states that the UN predicts that 10% of marine life is at risk of extinction. 10% is a lot different to ‘the ocean will be extinct by 2030’. There is more life in the ocean than you can possibly imagine, and yes, we are massively impacting fish stocks, and yes there are deep concerns about unsustainable fishing and pollution and the like, but there is also a wealth of evidence that shows preserving just 30% of a particular waterway can vastly improve marine health in the area (look up Palau and how they saved their ocean, their fishermen and their economy in one fell swoop).

The ocean will NOT be extinct in 7 years. Will we see extinctions in 7 years? yes we will. But even if we drove tuna to oblivion, that doesn’t mean the entire ocean ecosystem will be a barren wasteland in 7 years. People have been predicting massive apocalyptic extinctions for decades, and here we still are, preserving ecosystems, bringing animals back from the brink, working together to improve sustainability and green consumption. There is a long way ti go, and this is an incredible, momentous, world-changing agreement that will only bring benefits. Stop cheapening it with insane generalisations about total extinction. Enough already.

Shelve your hand wringing and existential dread and channel it into educating yourself and empowering societies to adopt these sorts of measures.

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