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LegendOfHurleysGold t1_jae8s1h wrote

They're really going to be in trouble when someone asks the computer to create a circus elephant capable of defeating Commander Data.

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philomathie t1_jaeypbw wrote

It's going to be even worse when they try and include Roko's Basilisk.

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BratmanDu t1_jaf21af wrote

It's ok we'll sort it out. Unless, several years later when Reg Barclay recovers the program from protected memory, then we're fucked.

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Ballardinian t1_jaey18w wrote

Shit, I should have asked for a circus elephant capable of defeating Sherlock Holmes!

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[deleted] t1_jae1e5s wrote

Why not just end the circus? Repackage the other performances as something new.

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eureddit t1_jaea2w3 wrote

Circuses used to display "human freaks," people with all kinds of physical deformities. As public sensitivities changed, circuses did away with those acts and instead focused on artistic acts and animal training.

It seems like doing away with animal acts as the public is is more aware and concerned about animal welfare just seems like the next logical step. I don't see how this would necessarily mean the end of circuses, or why we should no longer call it "the circus."

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VanillaGorilla- t1_jae9kox wrote

Trying something completely new doesn't always sell. So why not try to reuse an existing idea and add something new to see if it'll sell better?

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[deleted] t1_jaeccs0 wrote

Maybe but should they also then use holograms of people who were once considered freaks and exploited. Showing holograms of the animals still represents a negative thing. I don't know man...just throwing some ideas out there.

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VanillaGorilla- t1_jaectjt wrote

We're just looking at it from different angles is all.

I'd love to attend a hologram show that puts 20 foot ogres center stage.

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[deleted] t1_jaedaw8 wrote

Yeah, there you go. Work some circus performers in around that shit! gif

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Brite_No_More t1_jaelntu wrote

if critical role collaborated with broadway or some shit to make a literal LARP show with giant hologram monsters i would throw ALL of my money at it.

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VanillaGorilla- t1_jaedjjj wrote

Put a mo-cap performer as the ogre and have the ring leader tame it.

I'm sold.

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burnerman0 t1_jaeih2b wrote

As long as the holograms of the animals are captured ethically then it's very different. The issue with animals performing at the circuss is the well-being of the animals. The issue with showing people with deformities or other extreme physiology is exploitation. Our society has no issue with the exploitation of animals, as long as they are well treated in that exploitation.

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[deleted] t1_jaexsd8 wrote

I don’t disagree but doesn’t make the use of holograms even sillier vs just treating the animals properly?

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Purplepimplepuss t1_jaeld9m wrote

Maybe we should take animals out of movies too.

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[deleted] t1_jaewjdh wrote

I’m not even suggesting they be removed from circuses. I’m just questioning the logic of using holograms if you feel what they are being used to represents an evil practice.

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Gordon_Explosion t1_jadr9rz wrote

And audiences replaced by empty seats.

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[deleted] t1_jadz1gq wrote

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logantuc t1_jadzgh3 wrote

Who said that? Definitely not that guy you’re replying to.

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WhiskeyAndKisses t1_jae5i0l wrote

The guy that clearly implied this model wouldn't last because of how boring he finds holograms ?

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logantuc t1_jaeam7b wrote

Doesn’t mean he likes animals being abused or thinks they should continue doing circuses at all.

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WhiskeyAndKisses t1_jaeaz54 wrote

Still a pretty plausible interpretation for his message, y'all are being oblivious on purpose.

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logantuc t1_jaeb6y2 wrote

More like we’re not assuming shit just because it could be something they think. There’s no actual indication they think that at all. If someone describes a rectangle, you wouldn’t assume they mean a square.

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WhiskeyAndKisses t1_jaebnpo wrote

The original comment is an indication of that. That's the whole point. But whatever.

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logantuc t1_jaef6en wrote

My point is that it’s not. But whatever. Nowhere is there an indication that the original thing is better than the current thing, only that the current thing is bad. I’m open to being wrong if you can show me otherwise.

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[deleted] t1_jae0fai wrote

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kurt_no-brain t1_jae25l5 wrote

No, just saying no one wants to see holograms of animals. Just shut it down entirely.

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FreeInformation4u t1_jae56ag wrote

I would want to see that. I'm sure millions of others exist like me. Why are you speaking for everyone?

Edit: I'm not trying to be contrarian here, folks. I felt I was responding to a material point in /u/kurt_no-brain's comment. They said "no one wants to see holograms of animals". I interpreted that as them saying that literally and was trying to add the perspective that no, some people would in fact want to see that. I wasn't trying to be malicious or a jerk. I have autism. Remember that not everyone is neurotypical, people.

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Callinon t1_jae5ni5 wrote

There is something sort of unsatisfying in paying money to watch holograms do tricks.

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alabasterwilliams t1_jaeao5w wrote

More satisfying than paying money to watch abused animals paraded around a convention center.

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logantuc t1_jaeax92 wrote

Yeah but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea lmao

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FreeInformation4u t1_jaeh3jt wrote

I'm not saying you have to like it. But why are you trying to say that no one would like it? You don't speak for everyone. Just say you don't like it. You don't have to try to express it as some sort of universal truth that it's innately unsatisfying. What if you're the type of person to appreciate the technological work that went into it? What if that is more than enough for you, and you actually don't find it unsatisfying?

Okay, let me speak for myself. It is enough for me and it isn't sort of unsatisfying to me. I just don't appreciate how people are downvoting people who defend this kind of thing. You don't have to like it, but you don't just get to assign it "unsatisfying" and have that be truth.

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vooffle t1_jae2zw8 wrote

If the audience went to a circus with animals instead, little has been accomplished.

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citznfish t1_jaezk8o wrote

Each ticket comes with 1/8 of shrooms to help you enjoy the show

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Terriblyboard t1_jadxsm0 wrote

In other news. Holographic circus goes out of business.

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Callinon t1_jae5upl wrote

Next headline: Gen Z is Killing Another Beloved Tradition

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theguineapigssong t1_jae4rou wrote

I would love to see a Holographic elephant. I don't know if it's a sustainable business model, but I'd certainly buy a ticket.

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Cheese_Poof_0514 t1_jaeeacr wrote

I love how this is posted in r/UpliftingNews as a positive story and yet so far the comments have been incredibly judgy and negative /s

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AccordingLifeguard49 t1_jae31t8 wrote

Has anyone been to a circus in the last 20 years? People are still going to these things? More so they are creating them digitally 🤣? What will we think of next?

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balgram t1_jae983q wrote

I've been to a few. They still have really impressive feats of human skill. The one that had animals in it had the animals very rarely and seemed to be taking better care of them (I think some horses trotted in a coordinated pattern and an elephant came holding/wearing a banner, then left).

I'd be interested in seeing how they handle holograms. Circuses seem to try to push visuals and entertainment. They might come up with some really creative new ways to show off.

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AccordingLifeguard49 t1_jaecwc1 wrote

I think I went to one in the second grade? I'm 33 now so, math. I haven't even seen a circus since then and I've lived from Florida clear to Hawaii and places in between. They freak me out, the whole scenario around the circus makes the entire idea feel icky.

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SHADOWSTRIKE1 t1_jaemg5j wrote

I went to one about 8 years ago when my then-girlfriend’s mom got us tickets. It was a Ringling Brothers circus. I had never gone to one and didn’t know what to expect.

The animals were seldom used. There certainly was a bit where someone did gymnastics on top of an elephant which looked cool. They also brought out a Tiger and did some trick where the tiger was bouncing a ball on its head back to the handler kind of like they were playing catch. From cartoons and such I had expected to see some tiger jumping through a flaming hoop, and a ringmaster holding a chair and cracking a whip at a big lion, but there was none of that.

Mostly it was gymnastic stuff, like these guys riding these big “hamster wheels” and jumping on top of them, and someone getting shot out of a cannon, and some rope swinging stuff. I liked all that.

Maybe 8 years ago was a long time and things have changed, but even back then the animal use was minimal. I hope circuses don’t go away, as it was a lot of fun just watching the people do tricks.

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Sentsuizan t1_jaejlmr wrote

The circus is better now than it's ever been.

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MourkaCat t1_jaevpy0 wrote

I've been to cirque du soleil. Best circus ever, imo.

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psychord-alpha t1_jaessjh wrote

Are these real holograms, or just something they're CALLING holograms?

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Iggy_boo t1_jaesgal wrote

So you might as well just watch TV?

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Qcgreywolf t1_jae98x6 wrote

Ooh, wow. Computer programs doing exactly what they are programmed to do. So majestic.

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begorges t1_jaevsal wrote

Who says computer programs can’t be impressive?

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Cashewkaas t1_jaeriaz wrote

I would definitely visit this circus!

Imagine the insane tricks you can let a holographic elephant do, stand on its trunk whilst juggling skippy balls on his feet. Accompanied by a pack of zebras in unicycles playing various musical instruments. And then a lion comes and sings the national anthem of the country the circus is in at that moment.

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Larkke t1_jaegmmt wrote

"Alright, time to muck out the hologram pens again."

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Jefoid t1_jaehx9q wrote

Well, ok. As long as they can still treat the humans terribly I guess I can live with it.

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Polo1985 t1_jaeqkgp wrote

Finally a circus I can go to

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kharjou t1_jaejp77 wrote

Why even go there then. Might as well w1tch it on my home TV.

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autumnhymn t1_jael9al wrote

Cool so what, now, is real at the circus? Just the shitty carnival style food? Honestly hard pass just retire the poor concept already and be done with it.

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zdpastaman1 t1_jae9r58 wrote

isn't it cruel that you are taking those jobs away from those animals?

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Thunderbird_Anthares t1_jaecen6 wrote

this is not uplifting

uplifting would be a circus treating its animals well

this is just moving the animals to a zoo where they are just as likely to be treated bad, PLUS they get bored all day... AND the so-called "circus" will go out of business because its just a bad joke now

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Temporary-Quality t1_jadwavv wrote

Aww, but the unspoken cruelty was half the fun!

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Forzaman93 t1_jadmpub wrote

this aint upliftingnews this shit is downletting news like a "cruelty free" circus. nah man you gonna go bankrupt with those trashy holograms

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okram2k t1_jadozsv wrote

I don't think circuses should be a thing and I think this should definitely not be a thing.

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dicksjshsb t1_jae07b3 wrote

That’s kind of the real takeaway. Circus animals aren’t that impressive if they’re not real animals and if they are, they’re more than likely abused. Conclusion: we have a lot cooler shit than animal based circus acts for entertainment, and we should move on from it.

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Tupile t1_jadxk37 wrote

So far in this thread we’ve got people who enjoy seeing animals exploited. Par for the course on Reddit. Carry on.

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kurt_no-brain t1_jae28c1 wrote

No one is saying they enjoy it, just saying no one is gonna pay to see videos of animals.

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spencepence t1_jae9blj wrote

I dunno, a hologram show could be a cool gimmick

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