Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

[deleted] t1_j9hxfu1 wrote

Which is gonna bankrupt Russia down the road. Hang on to your hats people things are about to get very very weird.

41

galgor_ t1_j9jnl6u wrote

I thought all the imposed sanctions would ruin Russia but... It's still kicking? What gives? What's going on inside the country? Is life more unaffordable or what was the result of them?

7

jokamo-b t1_j9jsd9l wrote

Sanctions take time to bite. A lot of their infrastructure and industry uses western technology. They can no longet get that technology like spare parts, the people to operate on it etc (I think their oil drilling and pumling is based on western designs) When things break (and they will break, everything eventually does) they can't fix/replace it without overhauling the entire system, which will either force them to take IOU's to China, or just go without. The average consumer in Russia has also lost a lot of opportunity and products on the shelf. Russia also no longer trades, their currency looks great on the outside but the second they reopen to trade, that would drop quicker than concrete in the ocean.

28

[deleted] t1_j9kao3k wrote

It's a slow burn. Sanctions are only part of the equation. Politics in Russia, collapsing population, a run away kleptocracy, really it boils down to Putin trying to roll back the clock to the "Good old days" of the USSR. Their country's future died when that bastard took power because he's the worst combinations of a despot and a criminal enterprise.

Really the Petrochemical business is the only thing keeping them remotely solvent and Europe just opted out. They can sell it else where, but their market is going to be vastly reduced and the people who are left like India and China are taking advantage of the situation to force them to sell to them at prices more favorable to them and not Putin.

But what's really killing them is population collapse. Anyone who isn't dirt poor in Russia is leaving for pretty much anywhere else, particularly their skilled trades and educated work force. This is actually one of the reasons Putin is desperate to annex neighboring states. Russia needs bodies and they know it.

The people they *did* have who might have replaced the cohort that's aging out atm have either fled, or got chewed up in Putin's insistence on using Zap Brannigan's big book of war as his play book. It's a meat grinder that's killing their future.

Eventually Putin is basically going to turn the country into North Korea, or try to because they can't lose anymore bodies. They will put an insane amount of effort into policing their borders so nobody gets out or leaves. And that's not going to help either, men are dropping dead at 40 from alcoholism.

They are on the fast track to becoming a failed state and straight up TEOTWAWKI. There may not *be* a Russia by the middle of the 21st, and that's generous.

12

masshole4life t1_j9ki7if wrote

there is great comedy in the image of anyone attempting to police a border that long. even if they were a functioning country with quadruple the wealth they still wouldn't come close.

3

[deleted] t1_j9kkm67 wrote

It’s less Funny when you think about them Implementing Chinese spy tech to do it. Full On thought police, seeing that cancer spread out from China would not be a good sign.

2

Harbinger2001 t1_j9kbctg wrote

The collapse of Russia will be very dangerous. Lots of internal beefs to be settled. I expect Yugoslavia but on a larger scale.

6

[deleted] t1_j9kbuv6 wrote

Yeah the Balkans are my read as well, massive fracturing into a bunch of bandit kingdoms and their local warlord Oligarchs. Humanitarian crisises, etc.

And then there's China, who I can see trying to take advantage of the situation. I get the feeling the "Roaring WTFs" decade hasn't hit its stride yet.

8