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isonlegemyuheftobmed t1_j93fel0 wrote

0 detail on how exactly they managed to get children from russian territory

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tiberiousr t1_j93ndt6 wrote

Why would they reveal that and potentially close off an avenue of retrieving stolen children?

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isonlegemyuheftobmed t1_j941ak3 wrote

  • if that were a concern then why would they even be announcing that they’re saving children from russia??? surely that’s a safety concern too

this comes off as a “trust me bro”

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RoofClinger t1_j950ys4 wrote

They announce this kind of thing for morale. It's important for Ukrainians to know that their government is doing something about the missing children, and has seen a measure of success.

You'll notice that this article is also written in English. Ukraine needs to announce this to an international audience to keep the war in international news and keep international sympathies with Ukraine. News like this is very helpful for them from a foreign policy perspective, so spreading it around without explaining how they saved the kids gets the morale/foreign policy boost without risking their sources.

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SemperScrotus t1_j956g8m wrote

>You'll notice that this article is also written in English. Ukraine needs to announce this to an international audience to keep the war in international news and keep international sympathies with Ukraine.

This isn't even a Ukrainian production, for what it's worth. It's RadioFreeEurope, which is wholly funded and operated by the US government.

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t3ripley t1_j95wn3z wrote

The people who believe Radio Free Europe/Asia also believed that Saddam had nukes, and probably think Kim Jong Un personally beheads 36 orphans everyday.

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CharacterOtherwise77 t1_j9427bj wrote

You can say you did something bad and if it can't be proven you won't get in trouble.

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assholetoall t1_j94v3k4 wrote

For example, all the things I did to OP's mom last night.

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Draisaitl t1_j948rcl wrote

And yours comes across as “where’s my tinfoil hat bro”

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APr0N00b t1_j957x5b wrote

Because...Russia would know they are gone either way but now how.

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Significant-Oil-8793 t1_j93ix6q wrote

I mean they can't say Russia actually helped or even approved them to leave.

Maybe they could try to say they forge documents so the method would be more believable to the West

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PartyYogurtcloset267 t1_j96cgkh wrote

I'm not saying that this story is fake, but being reported by Radio Free Europe I also wouldn't be certain that any of this actually happened.

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dob_bobbs t1_j9539i4 wrote

It seems that the Russians kind of "borrowed" them, to, you know, keep them safe or something, effectively as prisoners of war or hostages or something and have been putting them through pro-Russian indoctrination of some sort, under the guise of keeping up their education before they send them back. Yes, evil and illegal, but actual state-sanctioned stealing children for adoption would be a whole other level and we have to at least recognise the possibility that "even the Russians" aren't going that far and these children are ostensibly going to be returned, through similar back-channels to those used for PoWs. I'm talking generally here, for sure there's been some shady shit going on with kids since this whole thing began: https://abcnews.go.com/International/ukrainian-families-reunite-children-russia-kidnapped-put-adoption/story?id=93798931. I think we have to realise also that there are multiple different actors and structures in Russia with different agendas, before anyone thinks I am defending Russia in any way, I doubt there is any one single policy, just like they can't even seem to field one single unified army.

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andreasbeer1981 t1_j956h66 wrote

I don't think you understand the level of aggression Russia has. They literally admit on TV that they force adopt Ukrainian children, and they also say that everyone in Ukraine needs to be killed.

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dob_bobbs t1_j96c3ol wrote

Well, I do, I understand quite a lot of Russian, though I can't stand watching the Russian networks for long, but it's hard to tell how much of it is BS at times.

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