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mcnello t1_j8wkubr wrote

Have you seen where people are migrating to? Out of New York and California, and into Florida and Texas. People are voting with their feet.

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Lonevvolf_ t1_j8wmrur wrote

Do you seriously think people leave because they want to support Abbot and DeSantis?

LOL it’s not politics, it’s because of cost of living.

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Trucker58 t1_j8wq8oy wrote

I’ve met several people here in my red area of California that specifically cited politics as the reason for moving to Texas/Florida/Carolinas. Now the real reason may definitively be cost of living issues. But I don’t find it that far fetched to see the ultra conservative people moving for political (or perceived political) reasons. Many of them probably moved here from these states in the first place.

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FightTomorrow t1_j8wzkql wrote

I met several people in my area that specifically cited cost of living.

Does that mean our anecdotal experiences cancel out into a null data set?

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Geichalt t1_j8wkwjz wrote

Incorrect

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mcnello t1_j8wl9o3 wrote

[Florida (318,855), Texas (230,961), and the Carolinas – North Carolina (99,796) and South Carolina (84,030) – were the states with the most net domestic migration gains in 2022. 

However, California (-343,230), New York (-299,557), and Illinois (-141,656) experienced the largest net domestic outmigration. ](https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/where-people-moved-in-2022#:~:text=Twenty%2Dsix%20states%20experienced%20an,domestic%20migration%20gains%20in%202022.)

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hawkaulmais t1_j8wmhbi wrote

That just means ppl are moving. I don't see anything about political affiliation. I've also seen plenty of ppl comment on r/texas they regret moving here.

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Geichalt t1_j8wncjd wrote

Red states require more migration because people die quicker in red states. Conservative policies lead to early deaths. Blue states are sanctuaries from those policies.

>The October report found that if all states implemented liberal policies on the environment, gun safety, criminal justice, health and welfare, labor, marijuana, and economic and tobacco taxes, more than 170,000 lives would have been saved in 2019. On the flip side, if states went with conservative versions of those policies, there would have been about 217,000 more deaths that year — “the equivalent of a 600-passenger airplane crashing every day of the year,” the study said. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/znfhsz/can_politics_kill_you_research_says_the_answer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

>In Trump states, the rate was 8.20 murders per 100,000 residents. In Biden states, the rate was 5.78 murders per 100,000 residents. "These Biden-voting states include the 'crime-is-out-of-control' cities of Los Angeles, New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Portland, Baltimore, and Minneapolis,"

>"Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump."

From Third Way: https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem

>Support for the Republican candidate in the 2016 election is a marker for physical conditions, economic circumstances, and cultural forces associated with opioid use. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2685627

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garblesmarbles1 t1_j8wop0m wrote

I would think the majority of the reason people left their areas was their jobs became fully remote and decided to move to warmer LCOL areas while still making HCOL wages so they basically got a big pay increase for moving somewhere cheaper.

I would dare to say at least 75% of the people who left did it for financial reasons not political.

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hawkaulmais t1_j8za4rq wrote

That's what I was reading TX and FL don't have state income tax. That was the top reason.

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TarantinoFan23 t1_j8wm34h wrote

When said immigrants eariler, you should've said domestic immigrants. Because it seemed like you meant immigrant from another country.

Seems like you don't know the difference between US and other countries

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Monstermart t1_j8wvc67 wrote

They’re moving for land. With the money I could spend on a 2 bedroom condo 45 minutes outside of Boston I could by a 5 bedroom 2 bath full house with a two car garage. That’s why people are moving.

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