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FindorKotor93 t1_j74rnxg wrote

This is how to show people who don't believe in anthropogenic climate change the way. Who cares if you don't think it's saving the planet, it's energy independency in a world dominated by controlling manipulative foreign powers. On top of improving air quality by reducing pollution regardless of if you think that air quality is good for the planet or just your own lungs.

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TheFinality t1_j75yaw9 wrote

This is what I don't get about conservatives. Bring all the money back home and spend it internally instead of exporting it.

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abrandis t1_j7bo8d1 wrote

MBS, cordially invited you to visit his local embassy to enlighten you on the benefits of fossil fuels.

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Insighteternal t1_j749pj7 wrote

Good. Fuck that psychopath and his stupid-ass war.

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coogee_de t1_j76000a wrote

"Despite"? If you cut out Putin's oil and gas, the renewable part gets larger automatically.

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oszlopkaktusz t1_j763qv1 wrote

The main point is that it hasn't been replaced by coal, but renewables mostly. And everyone else got the point.

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coogee_de t1_j76f59o wrote

EVs get more popular despite Ford stops producing cars.

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ShadyAidyX t1_j768yjt wrote

Should the headline actually be “Renewables surpass gas and coal because of Putin’s attempt to blackmail Europe”?

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derpdelurk t1_j77f0j2 wrote

Exactly. Sometimes something good happens for the wrong reasons.

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QuantumParanoid t1_j76sd0l wrote

From the article:

"The Netherlands, for example, the EU’s largest natural gas producer, had relied on Russian gas for 15-20% of its supplies as it wound down its huge Groningen field, but doubled its LNG import capacity with storage and regasification units in Rotterdam and Eemshaven."

Netherlands=natural gas producer?

Or

Netherlands=bigges natural gast importer?

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rebootyourbrainstem t1_j774ryb wrote

I thought the article is pretty clear, are you just complaining about the wording?

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ElleRisalo t1_j76ibs1 wrote

How is Putin blackmailing Europe?

Nord 2 was a joint project between Germany and Russia, that seems all but shutdown at this point ended by Germany due to US pressure. (This wind down of N2 started prior to Ukraine War)

Ukraine War caused numerous European Nations to abandon Russian Exports and instead pivot to Norway (as they should and really should have long ago, but lack of infrastructure made it tough)

Usually when someone is "blackmailing" another they have some leverage, Putin has none.

If anything Europe is blackmailing Putin into ending his war in Ukraine by refusing to accept Russian Oil/Gas, and a vague promise that trade could resume when the war is ended, but after pivoting to Norway, and accelerating renewable growth....will they if he does end the war?

That's blackmail.

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phrxmd t1_j76kg4v wrote

> How is Putin blackmailing Europe?

By unilaterally reducing, then stopping gas supplies through the existing pipelines between July and September, paired with statements by Russian political figures to the end of "winter is coming".

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ElleRisalo t1_j76m6a5 wrote

And they went to Norway instead.

As I said Putin has no leverage. So how is it blackmail?

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phrxmd t1_j76n7q5 wrote

> As I said Putin has no leverage. So how is it blackmail?

When you don't have leverage, but you think you do, it's still blackmail.

Most of the autumn and winter the messaging from Russia has been that Europeans will soon freeze to death.

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ElleRisalo t1_j77s7op wrote

That's not how blackmail works.....

That is called a threat.

And Europe said ok we will just buy from Norway instead...and they did. If you don't have leverage, you can't extort anyone.

If you can't extort, you can't blackmail.

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gh0stwriter88 t1_j74y691 wrote

Yeah but their power costs 2.5-5x more than mine here in the eastern US.... I wouldn't exactly call that a success.... on the upside my power is that much cheaper than thiers so yay!

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Thomas_JCG t1_j756k3q wrote

Except their prices are going down and they actually have power at all times, unlike a certain state.

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gh0stwriter88 t1_j756q02 wrote

Not sure where you mean CA? I'm not aware of anywhere else in the Us that is famous for rolling blackouts? Thier power is pretty high there also.

I mean a few cents of of 50cent per kw.... is no different than saying a few cents off $4 gas is falling prices... its objectively true, but it still doesn't mean the prices are equitable.

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lober t1_j75ckim wrote

I think he means Texas? Where they had major blackouts and Cancun Cruz took off. Then residents saw power bills of 10s of thousands of dollars due to surge pricing or something.

I dunno. Don’t live in either state.

Edit for a quick source. Plenty of other news sites to check also with google (I used DuckDuckGo)

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-resident-nearly-17000-dollar-power-bill-winter-storm

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ProtoplanetaryNebula t1_j75vijz wrote

Wholesale prices are now less than 1/6th what they were at peak in Europe. Those prices haven’t all filtered through yet, but they will. The high prices were due to all countries having to panic buy at the same time last year. Standard supply/demand economics.

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