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Soylent_Milk2021 t1_j729wku wrote

Reply to comment by Jango214 in MDMA, psilocybin approved for psychiatric use in Australia by CouldDoWithaCoffee

What confuses me about the validity of using MDMA is the MA part is methamphetamine. I guess tweaking under a psychiatrists guidance makes it therapeutic?

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TheBrutalBystander t1_j72btib wrote

Has my brother ever heard of adderal?

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Soylent_Milk2021 t1_j72z1kx wrote

Yep. That’s called tweaking under a psychiatrists care. It has therapeutic effects. I fully acknowledge all that. And I’m glad that psychedelics gave finally found their place in therapeutics. Been a long time coming.

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Dapper_Face7389 t1_j72d5oa wrote

That’s not how drugs work, for example the active drug in shrooms is 4-ho-dmt yet eating shrooms and smoking dmt are very very different, nobody would compare taking a dose of shrooms under the guidance of a therapist as smoking dmt. The MA part pretty much just means that mdma can be a stimulant, and most stimulants are amphetamines anyway. Mdma is much more like adderal than meth in stimulant intensity, and completely different than adderal in effects due to the MA part

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Adolist t1_j72mnaq wrote

Just wait until they figure out chiralism, how chemicals can look exactly the same but be completely different. One killing you, the other giving you health benefits.

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pingo5 t1_j73kelg wrote

I like to make the comparison between isopropyl alcohol and ethyl alcohol.

One will get you drunk, and the other will get you in a hospital getting your stomach pumped.

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Adolist t1_j72lna3 wrote

Cocaine is still used in the medical industry, as are derivatives/analogs of methamphetamine such as Dexmethylphenidate or Lisdexamfetamine. Just because something is in the name of of it chemically speaking doesn't mean it has the same properties, or similar effects, or is in anyway included as an 'add-on'.

You are confusing 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (C₁₁H₁₅NO₂) with Methamphetamine (C10H15N). Chemically speaking they are comparative but completely different. An orange and an apple are both fruits but they are most definitely NOT the same thing when it comes to dietary impact, fiber, Vitamin C levels, etc.

Your also taking a negative ideology on drug use based on previous experience or teachings and applying it to something you were told was bad and should stay away from. I was told I was perfectly fine just the way I was, turns out that was wrong and parents/teachers didnt want to apply a label to student or child out of fear. As an adult 10 years later I am now prescribed medication similar to MDMA to help my condition, within 4 years Ive tripled my base by while graduating college creating and entirely new life for myself, finding love, getting married, all of this because I'm no longer a shut in with alot of potential but the lack of focus to apply it.

Remove stigmatism, apply science, reduce harm, help others.

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