sobiyela t1_j68kvc5 wrote
Reply to comment by Corrupted_G_nome in A lot of people take kindness for weakness, that’s why costumer service workers get mistreated. by PokeManiac16
I don't see anything conflicting with what I stated.
But I do see that you have the wrong view about how society works.
Napoleon had A LOT of internal and external aggressive competition. Besides that, most people tailoring and baking were doing that because they literally needed it to survive. Many would prefer a better life.
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j68njxd wrote
Lol and if they went to seek that better life nothing would be produced... Ive heard that logic from wealthy people and it confuses me. We need labourers to produce literally everything. If Napoleon was stuck subsistence living, or any other historical figure, because no one would work in teams to make bread or build walls or host government and all acted like individuals and started their one man businesses they would achieve nothing.
Rocks can only be piled higher by widening the base. All societies are pyramidal in nature. In todays world folks are drilling into the base to get sand to build their own little spires to their own little peaks. Without the base however they cannot achieve anything and if they drill too much the structure collapses. Its also not just a metaphore but happens occasionally to civilizations and is a warning.
Ling views of archaeological history show as people become well fed they have time and energy to invent things like pottery or bows. When famines are bad enough most other jobs are abandonned for subsistence living. Squeeze people too hard out of a sense of self worth and the tower falls.
We exist as a collective. I cannot do my job if the people who build my tools do their job and they cannot do their job if their food sources dont work. Every society is centered around agriculture or is held at the mercy of agricultural imports.
Nobody wants to grind flour all day but it jas to get done. Shitting on people for doing hard work that is necessary for their own survival (and lets be real many of these things are also pleasureable) is a huge mental block devoid from reality.
sobiyela t1_j68o2bo wrote
You are doing a strawman's fallacy.
I didn't defend what you are trying to counter argue.
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j68tmzp wrote
Pointing to real supply chains is not a strawman fallacy. Its literally how everything works in the material sense. The base physical reality of civilizations is labor.
Its one of the reasons strikes are so effective. In ancient rome the working class would sometimes abandon a city for better rights/laws/whatever and the wealthy would realize quickly they had no more income from investments and they rapidly ran out of wine and bread. Forcing them to actually do labor which is of course harder, less profitable and less savory than their adminministrative or management type positions.
Happened just recently where corporate sent workers to fill in gaps at Mc Donalds. Turns out they needed labourers to serve food to support all the other jobs at head office. Seems kind of self evident no? They ended up being early adopters of higher wages to try to minimize that problem
Until machinery replaces people its a fact of civilizations.
"If I see far it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants"
If a business closes because boomers retire and everyone else chooses better jobs (the nobody wants to work rhetoric) and the owmer cannot run the operation themselves points to the necessity of what I speak.
sobiyela t1_j68u8la wrote
You are truly losing it...
Go drink some water and then tell us why are you arguing about that.
Corrupted_G_nome t1_j68vj6i wrote
Yes paragraphs and reading are too hard for some people. Have a great day.
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