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Unused_Application_ t1_j6inyyg wrote

That's an interesting observation, and an important conversation to have. We need to ensure that everyone is treated fairly and equally, regardless of race or background. It's time for us all to come together and work towards making our communities safer, stronger and more unified.

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Thats_My_Moo t1_j6ioclw wrote

Similar thing happened with gun laws in California in the 1960s. Gun control laws were passed after the Black Panthers decided they wanted to arm themselves.

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canikatthedisco t1_j6iprms wrote

Could work. Reagan signed gun control legislation in the 80's because groups like the black panthers started carrying.

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Demetrius3D t1_j6ir0yb wrote

It's like when nobody wanted to do gun control until the Black Panthers started arming up.

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Guardiansvn t1_j6ir8ad wrote

I’ve seen and heard this repetitive thought. Very sad how things aren’t a problem until black people start doing it.

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Silver-Reporter-605 t1_j6irwvp wrote

Like in Bojack Horseman where all it took for gun control legislation was to empower women to use guns.

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I_Love_Each_of_You t1_j6isgzz wrote

Nah, the police and their unions are just biding their time to step in. The second laws to restrict their behavior are seriously debated they'll start attacking the proponents with ads, campaign donations, and if that doesn't work historically they've turned to violence.

A violent gang doesn't just give up just because the public is against them.

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RonSwansonsOldMan t1_j6j5xoc wrote

Repeal ONE law and it will keep cops in check. Get rid of Qualified Immunity and make cops pay for lawsuits out of their own pockets. Not paid from ANY other source besides the cop's personal funds. Not city funds, not unions, not insurance.

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Mindofmierda90 t1_j6j6gn5 wrote

It never should’ve been made about race…but it was. Even the Tyre Nichols story is quieter than it would be if the cops were white.

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tunaburn t1_j6j8sfe wrote

Lol no

Nothing will change with policing. If anything they will get even more money for more cops and bigger guns but none of it will go to hiring better people or having actual training.

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snekbat t1_j6jc964 wrote

Imagine finding out just now it's not a race problem but a cop problem. US cop training is a joke.

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PlantZawer t1_j6je6tc wrote

Nahhhhh now they wont hire POC police because of this. Meaning POC cities about to have a full white supremacy police force

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Tr_nt t1_j6jgrol wrote

Laws that the police are supposed to enforce 🤔 Their just going to selectively enforce it only on other black cops they want to get rid of.

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octaviobonds t1_j6jjase wrote

The problem isn't the cops as much as it is prosecutors. Those people are vicious and responsible for putting behind bars many innocent people. Kamala is one bright example that has put in jail so many of her own.

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Extra_Bathroom_8306 t1_j6jl1bm wrote

Replying to fonkordie (#1,625,478)

Does the source discount that this really happens?

How about these

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/29/nypd-black-lives-matter-undercover-protests

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebec-police-admit-they-went-undercover-at-montebello-protest-1.656171

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49324822.amp

There’s even a term for it, agent provocateur.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

Oh and here’s the best one. The FBI planned and recruited people for a terrorist attack just so they can arrest them.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/podcast/dispatch/the-case-of-the-liberty-city-seven/transcript/

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wormholetrafficjam t1_j6jn86w wrote

Holy shit.. I’m more impressed the dumb bot didn’t flag this for some even dumber excuse. Good job!

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dengar_hennessy t1_j6jo8wz wrote

Replying to bassslappin (#1,624,412)

Seriously. I don't know the actual ratios but I think technically more white people are killed by police every year but with the proportion to population is higher percentage of blacks. Something like that. I don't know.

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MatiasPalacios t1_j6jorrn wrote

Wow, You guys has took you longer than I thought to try to turn this into a racial issue.

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thekyledavid t1_j6jqafd wrote

Replying to sandefurd (#1,626,915)

Because the people who were responsible were arrested right away

Nobody is claiming that BLM can somehow stop every murder, it’s just that people should be held accountable when a murder does happen

For comparison, it took 2 and a half years for Breonna Taylor’s killers to be arrested, and that was only after BLM got involved and made her a worldwide name

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dirkdiggler2011 t1_j6ju00t wrote

Replying to RailAurai (#1,626,077)

Nor do they report black on black murder which is highly prevalent. There is a reason Chicago is called "Chi-raq".

People are only interested if one color kills the other.

The recent emphasis on using "blue" as a universal donor for outrage has been lovingly cultivated by the media as an angry viewer keeps watching.

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PerpConst t1_j6jykxa wrote

Replying to thekyledavid (#1,627,229)

Derek Chauvin was arrested four days after the George Floyd incident, sparking six months of vigorously peaceful protests by BLM.

Those responsible for Tyre Nichols were charged three weeks after the incident, sparking the resounding sound of crickets chirping from BLM.

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Sburban_Player t1_j6k0au5 wrote

Replying to CakesNGames90 (#1,627,185)

It’s odd to me (a white dude) that their races are such a focal point, I understand why it seems weird but it’s nothing really new. NWA sang about “black police showing out for the white cop” in 1988. It’s always been cops killing minorities, a majority of killer cops are white, but plenty of them have been other races as well. It’s the police as an institution that kills people, which certainly comes from being founded upon racist ideologies, but the race of the individuals who follow that institution isn’t of much significance to me.

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ladybug68 t1_j6k4h8f wrote

I had the same thought. Police brutality can certainly be about racism, but the overreaching issue is power tripping, cruelty, and believing you are above the law.

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Stunning_Regret6123 t1_j6k68ga wrote

My experience has been there are no black, white or whatever cops, they’re all blue. If anything can overcome that divide from the “protected,” I suppose your statement is the closest thing.

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Sloloem t1_j6k6pco wrote

Replying to Fluid_Amphibian3860 (#1,623,040)

I looked at a lot of numbers from various watchdog groups right after the huge push in the wake of George Floyd's murder and the interesting takeaway was that encounters with the police end in murder at pretty much the same rate regardless of the races of either the officers or victims. When controlling for population demographics it was more likely for a black or hispanic person to have that encounter than others, but once the cop was targeting you it was about even odds.

The real stark contrast was when you drew the lines by income. If you were sufficiently wealthy your odds of being hurt or killed in an encounter with a police officer regardless of anyone's race dropped to effectively 0 while if you were poor (or the police thought you were) you were in serious trouble.

Not saying this is a good way to look at the data but if you don't break anything down at all and just look at all police shootings equally the least likely kind of person to be on that list is a rich asian lady while the most likely victim is actually a dog...because police kill roughly 10x more pets than people every year.

It's about class, yes, but fuck me the scared little babies popping off rounds at dog parks because wagging tails threaten them need to learn some goddamned discipline and de-escalation tactics.

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Avalanche2 t1_j6k6tdw wrote

Cable news has already told everyone that even though the 5 cops were black, this is clearly due to white supremacy. MSNBC already had Rev. Al explaining it all day.

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TheDeadlySquid t1_j6k850w wrote

What’s that joke from Chapelle about the only way there will be gun control laws is if blacks start buying a lot of guns.

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Fearzebu t1_j6k9pv1 wrote

Replying to ImReverse_Giraffe (#1,629,983)

And only because they couldn’t cover up or explain away the pole-mounted security cam footage. They thought they got ahead of it before it became a scandal by throwing five cops under the bus to save the broken system from scrutiny.

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MellowMe2022 t1_j6ka0d8 wrote

It's dripping with irony, huh?

Kinda like when the Black Panthers brought about gun control in California.

The Mulford Act

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devilthedankdawg t1_j6kalr1 wrote

Cause it wasnt a racist cop thing its just a cop thing. They may take advantage of a disproportionate number of black people cause black people are disproportionatley poor, but its not always race-based. Ask West Virgina trailer park people how they feel about the cops.

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Fearzebu t1_j6kax3a wrote

Replying to thekyledavid (#1,627,229)

Breonna Taylor’s killers were never arrested or charged.

The only indictments were involving the process of producing the fraudulent warrant, lying and covering up and obstructing the investigation, and charges for the one officer who shot 10 times blindly through a closed and curtained window (one of which went through wall into neighboring apartment) for being reckless and unnecessary, which implies the other shooters were not reckless and not unnecessary let alone criminal home invasion and murder which is what it was.

Don’t spread bullshit misinformation, that’s exactly what the police department sought in making these minor charges a headline to obfuscate the situation and give the general public who doesn’t pay much attention the impression that justice was eventually done; when, in fact, it has not been and will not be.

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Dredmart t1_j6ke0i4 wrote

Replying to ImReverse_Giraffe (#1,629,983)

The videos for both were released differently. Derek Chauvin was caught on camera by cellphone during the incident. This latest one took weeks for the video to come out.

Also, these cops were fired immediately.

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BoZNiko663 t1_j6kfxnx wrote

Bruhhhhh Automod .... you failed us ....

Literally said BLACK cops🤦‍♂️

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ncc74656m t1_j6kil2x wrote

Nah you can just keep firing black cops and charging them. Can't risk prosecuting some of the whi... err, good cops.

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joechoj t1_j6kixnj wrote

> police charged with murder

Me: Finally, cops not treated as if they're above the law!

> the officers were all black

Me: I see what's happening here.

Look, these men are awful, and deserve to have the book thrown at them, and I hope it leads to police reform. But of course it's black cops who are being made an example of after all the white murderer cops that have skated.

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