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Unique-Public-8594 t1_ixhp5my wrote

Any photo of a catholic priest now just reminds me of all the sexual abuse.

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bentlarkin t1_ixhz9km wrote

I’m not even a catholic but good fucking riddance to the anti abortion, anti lgbt piece of shit that is Tobin. Just another pedo supporter.

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Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixi6m79 wrote

So sick of these anti-Catholic comments. They always talk about the pedophiles in the Catholic Church (which I agree is a problem), but conveniently leave out how many members of the LGBTQ community and public school employees are convicted pedophiles. And you don’t want a bishop who is anti-abortion and anti-lgbt? Those are literally catholic beliefs? How do expect a catholic bishop to not be catholic?

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Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixibaos wrote

Replying to mhhkb (#634,867)

Lol what? There’s FAR to many to list. You could look it up online in a second and find recent articles about sexual assault from teachers, coaches, school officials, etc

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distortionisgod t1_ixibf7l wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,026)

Have fun supporting a church that directly goes against Jesus' teaching.

I'm sure he'd really love the horde of wealth the Vatican has amassed, it's really such a nice Christian value to hoard wealth for generations and protect rapists! Such a lovely tribute to god!

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Pdmnt t1_ixibmbd wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,026)

You mean politics, not charities. Another thing (politics) Jesus didn't like and yet all of his "followers" take part. I swear, you people never actually read the book you keep shoving in everyone's face

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breakmyheart01 t1_ixicka4 wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,044)

Here, I did the work for you as you told OC to do (not even OC) and it still proves you wrong:

https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/sexual-misconduct-in-the-classroom-everything-you-need-to-know/#:~:text=The%20report%20concluded%20that%20roughly,their%20K%2D12%20school%20experience.

"The report concluded that roughly 10 percent of students experience sexual misconduct by a teacher at some time during their K-12 school experience."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sex_abuse_cases_in_the_United_States

"The majority of accused priests in the United States (55.7%) had one formal allegation of abuse made against them, 26.4% had two or three allegations, 17.8% had four to nine allegations, and 3.5% had ten or more allegations."[

Let's not forget - the Catholic Church sex scandal has gone on for decades and this is only taking into account the people who have come forward. I am 100% certain both stats are undercounted.

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Uncle_Tony96 t1_ixid9h2 wrote

Replying to breakmyheart01 (#635,158)

How many public school employees are there in the US compared to priests? The number of public school employees is still higher. And the Catholic Church isn’t going to invite drag queens into my kids school

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YodaHead t1_ixie1fn wrote

The way this was handled sends a very clear message to Tobin: GTFO!

The guy equated the LGBTQ community with the 9/11 terrorists. Kinda stopped being interested in his view of a loving Jesus.

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breakmyheart01 t1_ixie3zs wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,230)

Dud, it's not that hard - you're way more likely to get touched by a priest, family member, or clergy person than you are an outside LGBTQ+ person - The statistics are not on your side, yet your still here peddling BS.

Facts not feelings bro. I know you FEEL like the Catholic Church isn't the problem and I know you have your Catholic church bubble and love to protect child diddlers - but you should really come on over to reality. You sound like a groomer to me tbh.

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ReasonableSteph02888 t1_ixie5zc wrote

I feel like every time the Catholic Church makes news because of something like this or because the bishop spewed more verbal diarrhea we should be highlighting churches who don't judge people and who make a real difference. Like the tiny churches I see providing outreach, help for the homeless, meals, etc. What is the Catholic Church with their so-called huge base in RI doing locally to help people?

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buddhamanjpb t1_ixigay5 wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,230)

The mental gymnastics that you Catholics use to try and come to terms with the fact that the church is full of, and run by child rapists is disgusting and abhorrent. I understand if you still want to worship God, but there are many other religions out there that worship the same God, go find one of those.

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buddhamanjpb t1_ixigj1g wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,026)

>Largest contributors to charity in the world btw

What an odd way to rationalize being a Catholic.

Imagine going to a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving and donating your time and money, and then raping a child that night and thinking, it's cool, I did a bunch of charity work today.

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Quick_Fennel_3244 t1_ixih62w wrote

Another person to lead the young men to confession booths and screw them up mentally.

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buddhamanjpb t1_ixihb6u wrote

Bishop Tobin is an absolute piece of shit and I wish him nothing but the worst in life.

Hopefully this guy is a little more sensible, but he's still a part of an organization that rapes children and covered it up for decades, is the poster child for misogyny, and thinks of homosexuals as less than human, so I don't have my hopes too high.

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bmon82 t1_ixijryt wrote

Tobin is 74... and bishops retire at 75.

Good riddance.

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the_silent_one1984 t1_ixil62t wrote

Replying to breakmyheart01 (#635,158)

You are misreading. It is not saying 55.7% of priests are accused. It is saying out of the accused priests, 55.7% have had one formal allegation.

If you read further down in the article:

"The product of the study, titled the John Jay Report indicated that some 11,000 allegations had been made against 4,392 priests in the USA. This number constituted approximately 4% of the priests who had served during the period covered by the survey (1950–2002)."

So, yes, not denying it's a problem, but it's incorrect to say 55.7% of priests are accused child molesters.

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FourAM t1_iximia4 wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,230)

Drag Queens aren’t pedophiles you depraved fuck

Stop being misled by billionaires who want you to vote their taxes down by letting the fascists take control

You and your shit-tier intellect are more of a danger to my kids than a fucking drag queen will ever be

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compulsory4fun t1_ixinq4h wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,044)

Real nice whataboutism, lol. But seriously what bothers me about the church isn’t that it has a sex abuse problem, it’s that they deliberately covered it up for decades, not just in this country but in countries around the world. Pretty fucking sick and completely indefensible. It’s the institutional rot of the church and their sanctimonious moralizing that is especially galling. See the difference?!

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compulsory4fun t1_ixip7er wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,230)

If you’re more terrified by drag queens then you are about an organization that repeatedly enabled child molestation then you have some serious soul searching to do. Your words are that of a hateful lil bigot and I pity you. Stop trying to demonize a harmless activity (reading to kids) and equate it with pedophilia. It’s a nonsense argument and the fact that you can’t see that just proves your ignorance. It’s perverse rhetoric like yours that fuels hate against the LGBTQ community. And we see where that can lead. Please go back to the cesspool from whence you came!

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breakmyheart01 t1_ixipet3 wrote

Replying to the_silent_one1984 (#636,070)

You are 100% correct - but I'd also like to point out that was just the Catholic church for that study. Let us not forget there are plenty of Evangelical, Mormon, and so on groomers. Let's look at the bigger picture shall we?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/31/feature/the-epidemic-of-denial-about-sexual-abuse-in-the-evangelical-church/

http://www.notinourchurch.com/statistics.html

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-14-282

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/sexual-assault-abuse/a-history-of-sexual-abuse-in-the-mormon-church/

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FrequentAnnual1262 t1_ixirgl1 wrote

When Tobin was in Pittsburgh he knew about sexual abuse of minors, but did not report it as it was "not his job"...

Tobin is lower than whale shit...

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whatsaphoto t1_ixismmg wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#634,563)

> And you don’t want a bishop who is anti-abortion and anti-lgbt? Those are literally catholic beliefs?

There are plenty of ideals that no longer are practiced or preached in the catholic church that were once "catholic beliefs".

  • Working on sunday was once seen as a crime worthy of literal death, as sanctioned in Exodus 35:2.

  • Selling your own daughter into the slave trade is also sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.

  • If a guy sleeps with a woman and claims that she is not a virgin, the mom of the woman needs to bring a "cloth" "proving" that she's a "virgin". If a cloth can be provided and her virginity is proven, the guy is fined 100 sheckles of silver for slander. If no cloth cannot be provided, the woman is to be beat to death by her own neighbors.

> "If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you." - Dueteronomy 22:19-21

  • If a man rapes a woman, the only punishment should be 50 sheckles of silver paid to the woman's father. The woman is now obligated to marry the man who raped her and is not to divorce her for as long as she lives, as sanctioned in Dueteronomy 22:28

Fuck out of here with the whataboutism in the name of the lord. Just accept the fact that the catholic church has proven to have cherry-picked specific things to preach hate against and which to casually, conveniently ignore. They are as ancient and as vile and as outdated as could possibly be in 2022, and are guilty are far more sins than they profess the LGBT community have committed.

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JoeFortune1 t1_ixitf2s wrote

Replying to the_silent_one1984 (#636,070)

One problem with these numbers is that many of the instances in the Church have been covered up. In public schools this is not usually the case with the exception of a winning sports coach who they don’t want to fire. The numbers in the Church are likely higher than the reports

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Alarmed_Nebula3917 t1_ixixxeq wrote

I hope this guy is a drunk catholic and not a pedophile catholic

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bunnybates t1_ixj0dby wrote

It's so odd to me that people are still playing pretend on such a large scale. Who cares about any of these people.

It's all imagery, the clothes, the rules, the rituals, the "history". They should be paying taxes, stop abusing children, stop moving these people around to avoid legal troubles.

If anyone has any time/ money look into:

snapnetwork.org

Stop giving these people power and money. My mom was a social worker in R.I. for 29 years and the stories of the cases she had with the survivors is disgusting and disturbing.

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BMorris2526 t1_ixj162j wrote

So much hate here. It's sad.

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BlushesandGushes t1_ixj3h09 wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#635,044)

What is the name of the public school that moved its employees around for decades to avoid their employees from facing legal action, thereby guaranteeing that more children will be sexually abused?

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smoooothpants t1_ixj4l7s wrote

Tobin is one of the reasons why I turned away from the Church. Plenty of leadership in the Church do not follow the teachings of Christ: Forgiveness, tolerance and good will toward others.

I remember years ago he spoke out against LGBT community for some parade they were having. It happened to be on the same day as the anniversary mass of my father's death, one of the rare occasions I went to church. I remember sitting in the pew, looking at my sister and saying "I'm only here for Dad."

How can someone preach the Gospel and then turn around and spit out hate like that? I'm not sorry to see hime go. Good riddance.

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BMorris2526 t1_ixj7lg3 wrote

Replying to Markcharles3 (#638,113)

Painting with a pretty broad brush. The child rapists are disgusting and should be thrown in jail. 99% of the priests dedicate their lives to helping others, especially the poor.

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WarExciting t1_ixjkdut wrote

Replying to BMorris2526 (#637,673)

Don’t try to argue with the hive mind…. These folks want to say that when a gay man diddles a little boy that he doesn’t represent all gay men. And they’re correct. But they’re also the first to jump on the “all priest are pedos” bandwagon. Pointing out the hypocrisy does no good, they’re not that introspective.

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compulsory4fun t1_ixjpeqz wrote

Replying to Markcharles3 (#638,113)

Can’t disagree that some people want to lump in all priests in that category and that isn’t fair. There are many good people in the church and Catholicism isn’t a monolith. That being said, the coverup of child sex abuse was institutional, a world-wide problem and spanned decades. People have a right to be upset and feel their trust destroyed and faith shaken. I think all reasonable can agree on that. I’m also in the camp that feels that Bishop Tobin is an asshole and his comments toward the LBGTQ community are petty, disrespectful and untrue. Glad to see him go!

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invadrzim t1_ixl5cnf wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#634,563)

> but conveniently leave out how many members of the LGBTQ community and public school employees are convicted pedophiles

BUt wHataboUt…!!!

https://turnto10.com/news/local/bishop-tobin-says-he-was-aware-of-abuse-in-pennsylvania-but-didnt-report-it

Tobin didn’t act on abuse he knew about because it wasn’t “his job”, but nothing was stopping him from calling the police

What a great speciman of the Catholic Church you got in him

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[deleted] t1_ixpxeey wrote

Replying to Uncle_Tony96 (#634,563)

Love the faithful, hate the faith. Some individual catholics are wonderful people, and Catholicism as a business and an institution is a vile and evil thing. Both of these things are true.

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