Submitted by gradontripp t3_ycted9 in RhodeIsland
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Il_vino_buono t1_itpk6t7 wrote
It’s nice the bus is electric, but over 90% of RI’s electricity comes from natural gas. Wind makes up just .5% percent. Electrifying vehicles only makes sense if you decarbonize the grid. Wind just doesn’t make enough energy.
Unique-Public-8594 t1_itpq2gy wrote
You aren’t wrong. They should add fake engine noise.
degggendorf t1_itps4el wrote
> Electrifying vehicles only makes sense if you decarbonize the grid.
Well yeah, I don't think there is anyone saying we should all drive EVs and also that we should also continue to rely exclusively on fossil fuels.
> over 90% of RI’s electricity comes from natural gas
That figure is for generation within RI borders, but since we're on the northeast interconnect and energy is fungible (I think that's the right word), we should look at that mix whee natural gas is only 46% of generation and wind is 3%: https://www.iso-ne.com/about/key-stats/resource-mix
But even then, clearly we have room for improvement.
Il_vino_buono t1_itpsva1 wrote
.5%… Wind is currently an extremely weak source of power. Nuclear is honestly the best “green” option.
Il_vino_buono t1_itpt1kv wrote
Honestly, SMR (Nuclear) is the fastest path to a green grid. Wind creates a big carbon footprint and does produce enough power to sub-plant gas/coal.
degggendorf t1_itpysuv wrote
I agree about the importance of having that nuclear backbone, but do think that the grid should/needs to evolve to be more storage-focused than purely one-way generation.
I am not sure where you're getting your info on carbon footprint for wind though, it seems to be pretty darn low: https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/articles/how-wind-energy-can-help-us-breathe-easier
keevisgoat t1_itqc8mj wrote
It's a shame we are all brainwashed to be afraid if it because if a couple massive fuck ups decades ago. The US Navy runs a ton of reactors and hasn't had a meltdown yet.
RIAWESOME33 t1_itqmzoa wrote
Its like putting dirt back on clean potatoes
Unique-Public-8594 t1_itqp7cn wrote
Not if it makes them safer.
overthehillhat t1_itqsbvj wrote
This could be a shocking development for some people - -
RIAWESOME33 t1_itqt6xe wrote
This is true
jt_tesla t1_itrg9si wrote
100% of the power in BI comes from the wind farm. The excess goes back to the grid.
Xalenn t1_itsdj77 wrote
Even without decarbonizing the grid, electric still makes sense. It's far easier to manage emissions at a power plant vs on millions of vehicles. There are plenty of other reasons but that alone is huge
Il_vino_buono t1_itsf1c9 wrote
For now, but battery production includes some very dirty mining and there’s not enough raw materials in the world to supply the amount of electrified cars, trucks, and buses we need. ESG experts are aware of this. More than likely, hydrogen will be the answer. However, hydrogen production is also carbon intensive.
Il_vino_buono t1_itshggl wrote
Except when the system is down for maintenance.
Megs0226 t1_itsm9ri wrote
How will kids know it’s time to start running to the bus stop if they can’t hear it from a mile away?
RandomChurn t1_itub0xp wrote
It could still have one of those loudspeakers: "BUS IS TURNING"
Coincel_pro t1_itphvla wrote
That's pretty neat. How much of BI's power comes from the wind farm? Would be cool if the island was fully renewable powered.