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maybebullshitmaybe t1_jd60gkr wrote
I always assumed it was just a design. Is it not?
(Not that it looks particularly good)
HotConcrete OP t1_jd60ncj wrote
. . . really? That seems odd. They look like a torn up fleur-de-lis and some sea cucumbers.
HotConcrete OP t1_jd60zln wrote
Usually seals are really tightly designed with each part having a meaning. These just look random.
maybebullshitmaybe t1_jd616zy wrote
I agree. After viewing this post I googled a bunch and yeah... they do just seem random.
But....(and I know this is MUCH older) let's consider for a moment "Cooler Warmer" 🤣
RI and poor designs must go hand in hand
p53lifraumeni t1_jd61wjb wrote
17th Century sex toys.
TheDoctorKnowsAll t1_jd63u27 wrote
I think the two on the right are telephones. Proof of a time traveler.
Kelruss t1_jd65e8n wrote
This is just called "filigree" and it isn't "supposed to be" anything, it's just a bit of embellishment that has been carried over from a physical engraving to a digital version.
Edit: checked some of my old notes, there's been some level of filigree on the state seal since 1852 - according to Howard Chapin's Illustrations of the Seals, Arms and Flags of Rhode Island.
Fine-Loquat t1_jd68mg3 wrote
Fireball nips
Adorable_List3836 t1_jd68mvn wrote
And on the left side is an inflatable arm flailing tube man from route six Kia auto mall
HotConcrete OP t1_jd76u4j wrote
Filigree is typically more symmetrical than this though. Does the book specifically say that this is filigree or say why it’s like this? I’ve never seen it done sort of piecemeal like this.
Kelruss t1_jd7arxm wrote
So, this is my conjecture (Chapin is silent on this since he was more concerned about the anchor): but I think there are a couple of things going on here. First, the 1852 version has filigree that appears to me to be somewhat indicative of a breaking wave. Second, it also, at that point, replaces a more traditional escutcheon shape (though the preceding image was a 1782 seal, which means that theoretically could’ve occurred at any time over the intervening 70 years).
You can see that in this 1876 image of the State arms from Henry Mitchell’s The State Arms of the Union that the basic pattern of the filigree used by Mitchell around the escutcheon looks a lot like what’s present on this interpretation of the modern seal (which if from Wikipedia and uses Chapin as its source as well). Now, as far as I know, this is original to Mitchell… but it might not be. If you look at the other arms, Mitchell largely uses the same escutcheon shape with the same filigree style. RI’s is the only escutcheon with this particular asymmetrical shape. So it’s possible that Mitchell was reacting to images already out there (the 1852 engraving’s filigree is asymmetrical, but not like this), or he developed his own shape & filigree and that influenced subsequent design here in RI.
FWIW, this filigree is not mentioned in state law for either the arms or for the seal. So they’re completely discretionary to the designer or the administration that commissioned them.
TheOGJayRussle t1_jd7b88e wrote
It’s clearly a squid swimming with calamari.
HotConcrete OP t1_jd7f8wg wrote
I really appreciate your insight and I think you hit the nail on the head! I’ve fixed your link for those who are interested.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rhode_Island_state_coat_of_arms_(illustrated,_1876).jpg
It somehow makes sense that Rhode Island would have its own weird little filigree.
Mother-Pen t1_jd7gkqb wrote
Vintage version of Cooler and Warmer
sandwichtown t1_jd8484j wrote
Lupini Beans
geffe71 t1_jd5v18p wrote
Bunting