Submitted by clairedelunar t3_11opd9s in RhodeIsland
Signed a millennial wondering if she will ever be a homeowner or if she is destined to rent for the rest of her life 😭
Submitted by clairedelunar t3_11opd9s in RhodeIsland
Signed a millennial wondering if she will ever be a homeowner or if she is destined to rent for the rest of her life 😭
750k, 1 mile from the beach with 4 beds, 2 baths and a 2 car garage in half acre.
What town?
Westerly
You really selling or kinda jk? That sounds like a hella deal, tbh!
You got ripped off.
Haha nope. I bought 7 years ago and it’s more than doubled in value. I’m not leaving for less, thanks.
Patience young millennial, allow the banks to crash again… wait and watch the dominoes fall, save your money and wait for the artificially inflated housing market to burst at the seams. You will know when the time is right.
For the market to crash the demand has to be lower than the supply
which is what happens when the economy dips, unemployment rises, and not everyone qualifies for a mortgage
When people have 2% mortgages and rents are the same as mortgage payments set pre-Covid people will never sell so supply will never rise and prices will never fall.
You have a fair point. Folks who bought with a 2% mortgage will not have incentive to sell. Historically low interest rates were used to stimulate the economy, then the government prevented evictions which meant that roughly 5% of the housing market that is typically in rotation no longer was; further restricting supply.
At some point foreclosures and evictions will need to return and when that happens you will have several years of pent up inventory hitting the market at likely the same time. It is also possible that this will coincide with the rise of unemployment, which is also at historical lows and at some point will return to a more normal rate.
Despite the fact that there is incentive for some with a 2% mortgage to stay put; life will continue. The elderly will die, people will be promoted and relocated, and empty nesters will downsize. Nothing is permanent, just like the fact that in the 1970s mortgage rates exceeded 10%. BITD the opposite thing was being said and folks were saying that people will never be able to buy a home because of the insanely high interest rates and the impact that had on the mortgage payment.
People complain about the economy right now. There is reason to do so; but just wait until the unemployment rate rate spikes and finding a job is more difficult. The amount of housing supply will increase, but those who will qualify for a mortgage will decrease and a portion of the population will remember the good old days of high employment, despite the increase in prices.
The key take aways, especially for young people, is that nothing is permanent. Save your money now, and pounce when the economic changes occur. Buy when the inventory returns. When the interest rates eventually fall, refinance. Just because this isnwhatnhas happened during your early adulthood doesn't mean that the world won't continue to find equilibrium to a state that you have yet to experience.
Never this, never that. Rome didn't fall in a day or whatever. Speaking in absolutes in foolish.
A lot of real estate holder may find that they are a wee bit over leveraged. The supply will open up, the values will drop however most won’t have enough capital to get in.
It’s not 2004, the supply isn’t going to reopen like that.
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If you bought your home, you participated in a market place, and if you bought at a decent prices it’s because it was valued based on how much the house was worth relative to supply and demand for similar properties. So sure your home is not a supply, but it is part of the supply. Not sure what your hang up is..
UUUH the ppl of the USA are being abused by financial institutions and you serve at their feet , eat their shit and ask for seconds !
> For the market to crash the demand has to be lower than the supply
This is what people seem to not understand for New England in general. We have a supply issue, despite which way the economy or rates go.
There won’t be a “crash”, so people should simply buy when they see their dream house come available and always be looking.
What caused it to burst the last time isn’t happening this time.
Never the same way twice, but in the end it’s all about the transfer of wealth. Some will win, many will loose.
Fun fact: home prices in Rhode Island fell about 25% between 2008 and 2013. And that was the result of a historic recession caused by massive failures in the banking and lending industry, coupled with an extreme subprime mortgage crisis.
You’re not gonna get the banks failing this time. There is no subprime mortgage crisis. What we have is a lot of demand and not very much supply, because as much as everybody talks a big game about lowering housing prices, nobody wants a bunch of duplexes or triplexes or townhomes or condos built in their own neighborhood.
So everybody is fighting over the same houses, many of which were literally built 100 years ago, because no matter what anybody tells you, the people in this state value living in a museum more than they care about making housing more affordable.
You might want to look at the market tomorrow. In any event the dominoes will continue to fall.
I doubt it
The dominoes don’t all fall at once, but rest assured they are coming down. Just make sure your money is secure.
I think it’ll come down very slowly over time. I mean the next 7-8 years. The interest rate will get to 9-10% just like in 1999 and the prices will come down.
I just have a feeling with current trends that timeline may be sped up. Of course if the housing market crashed again, most people won’t be celebrating.
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It really depends on what you’re looking for. My fiancé and I got a house for 265 in November, but it has work that needs to be done to it. We had to put in a solid month of work painting, hanging drywall (which wasn’t something we had expected to do) and getting floors refinished/replaced before we moved in. There’s definitely stuff out there for a lower price. It just depends on how much work you’re willing to do as well as what you can budget in regards to work after purchase
That’s awesome - congrats to you and the fiancé on the new house!
We’re definitely not opposed to putting in some work like what you’ve described but also don’t want a major fixer upper either, which unfortunately seems like what’s out there currently. Inventory is just awful right now 😭
Thanks!
We got exceptionally lucky; just right place/right time to get what we did. The roof has to be done sooner than later, but otherwise the bones of the house are in good shape (furnace, water heater, etc). It’s definitely a tough market, but all I can say is hang in there, and something will find it’s way to you
If I sell you my home, I won't have anywhere to live. It's a vicious cycle.
Exactly. Which is why no one is selling. Some people are so damn stupid they just don’t get it.
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Open to west Greenwich or is that too rural ?
Just a little to rural for what we’re looking for unfortunately but I appreciate the comment! We live in PVD now and work in the city so we’re hoping to end up somewhere Providence-adjacent (ideally Cranston!)
I recommend Pawtucket. There are some great deals due to the stigma and the neighborhoods are not what they once were and have gotten much quieter
Been in pawtucket for 3 years and love it. It's all good on the east prov side
Pawtucket. HAHAHAHA!!!
That attitude is exactly why there are some fantastic deals in the Pawtucket market.
Pawtucket is absolutely awful. Depressing city.
You sound like a bitter little kid. Pawtucket’s about as depressing as Cranston, Warwick, Providence, or literally any other city. You don’t want to be depressed go live in suburbs
The suburbs are depressing , I want to be close to where shit is going on, Pawtucket is where it's at. I work in a dive bar in the bucket and they try to convince me it's scary and and bad and I'm like, have you ever gone outside of RI? Have you ever worked or lived in the tenderloin or mission of SF or traveled the less than first world countries? GTFO with that, it's idyllic in comparison. Love poorbucket.
Wake up.
The East side of Cranston is the best. Eden Park is nice and has some deals. Very close to PVD...commute 15 minutes to downcity.
I love when people are picky. Move to the woods and gain equity instead of waiting for it to happen
they are the definition of economic inequality , bunch of over paid economic migrants from other states ruing our local economy with diversity and inclusion what a joke RI has become , we used think the mob running the city was a bad thing hahahah!!
Yeah that’s not us - we’re native Rhode Islanders who plan to live in this state forever.
And also, perhaps this will fall on deaf ears but maybe consider not referring to diversity and inclusion as a joke/something that’s ruining the state.
In this country, which we call the “United States” for a reason, we allow all citizens to move freely between the states. Why do you hate America so much?
The united states does not exist anymore , your ideas of "AMERICA" are false and based in lies ?
Amen. I miss the mob. All the pos motherfuckers who aren’t even native RI have ruined lil Rhody.
Ill tell exactly what it is.... Sometime after 9/11 the political parties began to structure themselves like a MCdonalds.
They now sell us the BS diversity and inclusion candidates from god knows where and they have colonized almost every part of America under this new corpo-poltical cult system.
Now we cant fight them in anyway because we cant vote them out because they will just be replaced with members of the party . Cant go to war with them, most Americans are not even physically fit enough to walk a mile :(
All we can do is watch as our cities are entered into some globalist economy where no matter what , the residents of RI dont have the money to compete , and the government in collusion with these global financial systems , is only happy to accept THE CASH.
In short the USA is no more we are foreigners in our own lands . They should rename us THE CORPORATE ENSLAVEMENT STATES OF THE NORTH AMERICA ( we live in district one ) ..
Don't discount Warwick. It's still in easy range for Providence (can't comment on morning commute traffic tho, I know evening commute can be hell for sure however), with a lot of good options and different sub-communities
Plenty for sale in my area of Cranston! Just have to pay!
West Greenwich is wicked nice. I want to move out there
I’ll take it
You have something in West Greenwich? We are only looking there or Exeter to stay in the same school district. Not much available around here though....
A house came up for sale in westerly (where we are looking) the other week and we were legitimately so excited. It was a small bungalow, needed a little updating but would have made a perfect starter home for us. It was also under 400k and seemed too good to be true. It was close enough to where we live now that I walked by to make sure we weren’t being house-catfished.
It was pending sale literally 24 hour later. Didn’t even make it to the open house.
Gotta get in good with a realtor who can show you something before an open house - avoid the whole bidding war if possible
A good realtor lol. You don’t need a realtor fir anything but giving away your money.
You don’t pay a realtor when you’re buying
You don’t need a realtor for anything.
Then don’t get one. I’m just saying you’re not throwing away your money because you don’t pay them. And mine sure made my life a hell of a lot easier by doing all the work.
I think I know that house! Do you have a realtor? I know a good one in Westerly if you need one.
We don’t yet! Still very much early, but I think that’s the next step
I used Annie Fox, she has a good network and got us the house we wanted and needed. There’s also Kimber Pope-Kettlety, she’s like the queen of So County real estate so I’m not sure if she’s accepting buyers as clients.
Check out Bradford. It’s one of the Westerly Villages so you get the lower taxes and it has tons of hiking trails. We love it.
We have been looking there! I have basically all of westerly and Chariho area saved on Zillow 😂
Well that’s a terrible realtor. Should have had it on the market for at least a week to get multiple parties interested. Sorry 😞
Saps
They’ll regret it when the value drops by 200k this time next year.
How do you feel about Elmhurst? I’m in the process of finishing up some projects that never got completed. 4 beds / 1.5 baths, office, fully fenced in front and back yard and I was planning to list around $425.
I’m OPs partner, and know she is open to Elmhurst. We lost out on a few bids in that area….she does have a Cranston preference at the moment tho, but we are taking every home in on a cae by case basis.
$250k it’s not a 425k hood you’re dreaming.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Check recent sales, price is right, depending on condition.
Speaking of dreaming, it sounds like you fell asleep in 2016 and just woke up if you think there are good houses going for $250k in Elmhurst.
They’re not worth more than that. In three years 175k. Be a sap and buy now.
... look into buying a two family and rent the second apt. Their rent pays for most of your mortgage. Then save for a few years and buy a single family when the market settles and you're in a better financial place.
Finding a multi family unit, in any place you want to live yourself, in this market is very hard…
192 results on zillow for single fam homes 480k or less and 3+ beds. Not sure what you are looking for.
Location of a home, the amount of work needed on any given property, and trying to max out on a housing budget all make a huge difference. We saw a house that was great, at 425k but needed work done…a quote for the bathroom alone was like 30 to 45k….
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7%+ on the note though?!?
still beats renting 🤷🏾
Hmmm not so sure about that
idk i looked at some apartments and honestly they were a couple hundred dollars cheaper than a monthly mortgage.... and at least with a house I can sell it and potentially make a profit. personally it seems more responsible to buy to me.
You’re highlighting all the benefits of homeownership - there’s are downsides as well. You can make a profit, but you can also be underwater just as easily. You also don’t have freedom to move as easily. You are also on the hook for unexpected expenses. I generally agree with you, but too many people think renting is “throwing away money.” I am cautious with elevated prices and unemployment ticking up. I would be patient, I think we will see a buyers market in the next few years
yeah but then there's also downsides to renting, personally in my position it makes more sense to buy. I can also refinance when the market calms down but when does rent go down? again this is all anecdotal, just an opinion from my point of view and i know others personally in the same boat.
I understand. For me it’s the opposite. We’ll see where things head but I see no way the housing market will remain elevated if unemployment keeps ticking up
yeah all of this seems very unpredictable
Unemployment isn't ticking up, way more jobs were created in the past few months than analysts predicted
It has ticked up in the past month. Analysts are usually wrong
Unemployment rate is 3.6%, lowest since 1969. Long term average is 5.73%. What it ticked up from 3.4 to 3.6? 🤣 O no it's the great depression! Get real, stop talking out your ass. The Fed has said numerous times that the labor market is proving to be more resilient than anticipated. January analysts predicted 187,000 non farm payrolls to increase by it went up by 517,000. February expected was 225,000 came in at 311,000. Just look at the numbers my guy
We’ll see. The fed is trying to increase unemployment as we speak. Hope you’re diversified that house is just money on paper
I'm diversified af my guy, got a few rollies, cocaine, and a titty club. Bet
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Don't talk about yourself like that buddy
Lol that comeback sucked. Even if you do own a club you still post your dick online. Thirsty loser
Just the tip?
They have been trying to increase the unemployment rate for 2 years now 🤣
Renting is throwing out money. Homeownership and building equity is how most Americans acquire wealth. Bought my place in 2018, it's doubled in value since. Pretty good investment
Lol. And most Americans are broke besides their house they live in. I’ll stick to my plan it’s working for me
🤣👍
There's also property taxes to consider which drive up monthly/year costs.
very true, something i heavily considered.
I mean my 2 bedroom apartment was about to go up to 1865 a month this may. My mortgage is a few hundred more than that. Considering I can refinance a lower interest rate when the time comes, it’ll be a wash considering how much rent keeps rising
What are you looking for? Where are you looking? How long have you been looking for? Might be the agent you’re using. (I’m not an agent)
We’re ideally looking for a 3bd/2ba with an updated kitchen that otherwise isn’t a major fixer upper (I’m cool with painting, refreshing/updating a bathroom, doing a few DIY fixes but I really don’t want to have to renovate a kitchen and/or live in a construction zone).
We are only looking in certain locations which is what makes it difficult: Cranston (Edgewood, Meshanticut, Eden Park, Garden City, western Cranston) and the Elmhurst area of Providence.
We do have an agent who is great! We’ve been looking seriously/making offers for the last 3-4 months. We were so close to getting a home recently (estate sale in Cranston in the Dean Estates area) but the inspection revealed some major issues and we had to back out to avoid buying a complete money pit. We were close to homeownership in December too but just got in at the wrong time- we had a backup offer on a house but the original deal went through (home ended up selling for $10k less than our back up offer)
We’re keeping our hopes up that we will land in the right home at the right time! I just took to Reddit to vent today cause it was one of those days lol
Good on you guys for being patient. I know it can be hard when you’re gung ho about buying and sometimes if you squint, a house that’s not right for you looks like the right one.
We own but almost bought a house that cost 2.5x our current house with no additional square footage just to be 5 minutes from the ocean. Then it dawned on us: who gives a shit if you’re 5 minutes from the ocean or 25 minutes from the ocean? You still have to drive. Best decision we’ve made since buying our first house.
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What’s your pre-approval for?
We’re technically approved for more but want to find something in the <$450k range bc of rising rates, student loans, hopes to start a family one day, etc.
You’re approved for over 450k and complaining about not being able to find anything lol?
Banks approve for way more than you're willing to pay, my wife and I bought a few years ago for <300k, but were approved for over 550k. If we bought somewhere for 550k we'd literally be house poor for the next decade
Yeah you’ll never ever afford 450k
Yep. I bought after the financial crises in 2008, and our lender went on and on about new rules put in place to prevent that sort of crash again. We were still approved for an amount that, if used, would have resulted in us eating nothing but Ramen noodles for the next decade. It's insane.
..OP could still spending 100k less and fine house within 30 minutes of providence
And no, banks do not always approve you for way more than you’re willing to pay
Very out of touch with people who are actually struggling to get approved for something they can afford
I'm not saying that's always the case but just my experience. My wife and I are both in fairly well paying fields and live in a (relatively) lower cost of living area, but we both had specialized degrees, 5 years of college each, and had to take out student loans to pay for it.
If we didn't come out of school with a mortgage worth of debt already, maybe we could have payed for a house that expensive, but the reality was that we knew our means better than what a lender would have wanted us to believe
> could have paid for a
FTFY.
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Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.
Payed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.
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I’ve seen plenty of homes sell for less than that in Elmhurst and Mt. Pleasant.
I live in Elmhurst and the houses around here have been selling in the $400k range.
Exactly - who would want to live there
No one. Providence is a shit hole.
I’d sell but that’d be a loss. Hoping you find something soon!
Thank you!!!
Try Warwick
You can’t afford that. It’s a pipe dream.
im holdin out and savin all my pennies for wen they start sellin moon pods, a lil house on the moon
Yeah, but they will lure you in with the affordable moon pod but charge you outrageous rates for air, smh.
The fact that this is 100% what would happen 😭😂
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Don't buy now. Figure it out until this cycle of psycho changes.
If you’re pre approved for the amount you commented elsewhere then you’ll absolutely land something if you’re patient. I don’t know what your offers look like, but if you’re being reasonably competitive then there’s no reason you wouldn’t land a contract after a few offers.
Be careful with that pre-approval number. What you're approved for and what you can realistically afford are usually two different amounts. That's how over-leveraging happens.
Stupid people think what the banks pre approve them for is what they can afford. Really stupid people. Which led to the last housing crisis.
I'm a Realtor here in RI and it can absolutely be difficult navigating this crazy current market. I've had a lot of success with my clients over the last few years and love to chat and understand the problems you're having better. Feel free to DM me to connect.
Realtors are obsolete. Find a new profession soon.
How are they obsolete? Just curious your view. It is a trade like most others. Skills and education to assist a client in one of the most financially important purchases of their lives. Why wouldn't you want a seasoned professional on your side?
Buy a car online buy a house online. You’re obsolete.
You absolutely can do both online with today's technology. I am not arguing that. What I am arguing is the expertise that a professional does day in and day out to help their client that buys or sells a home every 7-10 years on average. I'm just curious why you say Realtors are obsolete?
I don't know if it's ok to suggest a realtor here (not me, not a relative- just a straight up good local) but if you'd like to dm me, I'd be very happy to recommend
475k cash and its yours. 3 bed, 2 bath. Master has its own bath. Fenced in yard. 10 minutes from providence. Every room expect one bath has been updated in the last 5 years.
I'm a single male, 39, I just bought in Warwick at the end of August. $275K for a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 1,100 SQ ft, about .15 acres. Places are out there, stay diligent and good luck!
600K. I'll take cash or card.
Sorry friend I wouldn’t be able to afford another lol.
It's tough out there. We bought a home in Pascaog 8 years ago for 190k, right now we could sell it for 380k. If we bought the same house now, there is no way we could pay the mortgage. It's over 1k more.
Look in east Providence! I'm a 3-5 minute drive to the city and still have a yard. I will be selling my 3bed 1.5 bath but not until the fall likely.
Keep working and save! You'll get there!
Friend of mine listed his 3 bedroom in Warwick near Kent hospital for $350k, that just went up this week.
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All you need is a Time Machine to go back to late 2019 early 2020 and you’ll be alright
A Time Machine feels like our best path to property ownership 😂 now to figure out how to build one…..
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You can’t afford it.
Now your catching on ! Yes, the inflated housing prices that have doubled if not tripled in the last three years are in fact too high. Your other comment had folks in my end question your intelligence but I said give my boy a second, he’ll get it!
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Plenty of people are still buying, I’ve been to open houses that are packed, homes in certain desirable locations barely last a week, if that, before they are sold. So wtf are you talking about….
Wrong. You gotta be a fool to buy with these interest rates. So. You’re all fools.
Wrong? It’s a fact people are still buying and homes are being sold quickly. Is it foolish? I don’t know bud, rents are going up so one can argue not buying is foolish.
Current 30 mortgage rate is 7.2% and the homes are massively overpriced. Suckers are buying now. Stupid people.
Dummies are buying. I’m one year what they paid will drop by 200k. Wait.
I mean you went from declaring no one was buying, to stating only dummies are buying. We can wait if you want, but i can tell you your take is for sure wrong. Unless we build more housing, the best we can hope for is that prices flatten. But you are entitled to your opinion not to the name calling. You take is trash tho, feel free to try again.
Realtors,travel agents,car sales and insurance agents. OBSOLETE!!
I'm with you. Prices and interest are both wild right now too.
What’s your budget?
Sounds like you're looking for 2018 prices in 2023. Good luck!
We bought land in summer of 2019, sold our house at the end of 2019, locked into a really low rate during pandemic, finished building in 2020 and will never sell. Ideally if I ever move I’ll rent it out and it’ll cover my next mortgage. It’ll likely take a few years for rates to go back down but supply is still an issue.
I can sell you one, studio condo starting at $250,000 560 sq feet downtown Providence or a 4 bedroom house in Barrington 4000 sq feet for 1.8 million. I have a few other properties in between that range too
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There are 2,901 houses for sale on Realtor.com right now. For the love of God, go buy one.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Rhode-Island
Cash is king and patience is definitely key! One of these days, people will learn that RI is not a place to play minuscule internet pranks. If you’re going to be a Punk, ya’ll better stay the heck away from the Narragansett Rez. the swamp is not a fun place to be when the indigenous don’t agree with your greed and entitlement!
How are Society is currently set up? Yes, they prefer you just rent forever.
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680k and it’s yours.